1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:07,750 ladies and gentlemen general jack daly 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:23,910 [Applause] 3 00:00:27,109 --> 00:00:25,429 well good morning ladies and gentlemen 4 00:00:28,470 --> 00:00:27,119 and welcome to the stephen f woodward 5 00:00:30,150 --> 00:00:28,480 housing center 6 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:30,160 it's my very great pleasure to welcome 7 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:31,760 you here today 8 00:00:35,590 --> 00:00:33,760 it is an honor to host the first meeting 9 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:35,600 of the newly reestablished national 10 00:00:39,990 --> 00:00:38,320 space council by choosing this location 11 00:00:41,830 --> 00:00:40,000 to begin their work the council is 12 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:41,840 sending a strong message about its 13 00:00:47,029 --> 00:00:44,800 intentions for our future in space 14 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:47,039 rather than as an executive boardroom or 15 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:49,360 an agent agency conference room 16 00:00:53,270 --> 00:00:51,280 this first chapter of the new space age 17 00:00:54,869 --> 00:00:53,280 will be written here among the icons of 18 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:54,879 our nation's highest proudest 19 00:00:57,910 --> 00:00:56,320 achievements 20 00:00:59,990 --> 00:00:57,920 from the helmet and gloves of neil 21 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:00,000 armstrong war when he planted the flag 22 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:02,320 on the moon to discovery champion of the 23 00:01:06,870 --> 00:01:04,799 space shuttle fleet the james s mcdonald 24 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:06,880 space hanger contains artifacts that 25 00:01:12,149 --> 00:01:09,200 capture the scope of america's legacy 26 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:12,159 and future in outer space like no other 27 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:13,920 venue 28 00:01:17,670 --> 00:01:15,840 from the beginning the space program has 29 00:01:19,030 --> 00:01:17,680 been a partnership between industry and 30 00:01:20,870 --> 00:01:19,040 government 31 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:20,880 working together toward important 32 00:01:24,550 --> 00:01:22,400 national goals 33 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:24,560 from the first mercury capsule to the 34 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:26,400 international space station 35 00:01:31,030 --> 00:01:28,720 private public partnerships are the 36 00:01:34,149 --> 00:01:31,040 foundation of how america solves complex 37 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:34,159 problems and accomplishes great things 38 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:36,000 many of those same organizations are 39 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:37,840 here today today 40 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:39,600 helped us build this museum and we're 41 00:01:42,870 --> 00:01:41,439 delighted to have them back 42 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:42,880 and we're grateful for the part that 43 00:01:47,429 --> 00:01:44,880 they have played in the plot the 44 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:47,439 country's new course in space 45 00:01:51,109 --> 00:01:49,119 the person leading that charge is no 46 00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:51,119 stranger here during his tenure as 47 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:52,880 representative of the indiana's sixth 48 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:55,439 district he led a virtual field trip 49 00:01:58,870 --> 00:01:57,439 from the uberhazy center to classrooms 50 00:02:01,510 --> 00:01:58,880 back home 51 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:01,520 ensuring that children in muncie had the 52 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:03,119 same access to the smithsonian 53 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:05,520 institution as visitors to the nation's 54 00:02:08,949 --> 00:02:06,719 capital 55 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:08,959 that commitment but to our shared 56 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:11,039 mission of inspiring future innovators 57 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:12,959 and explorers will be the key to 58 00:02:16,869 --> 00:02:15,120 national space council's bold vision for 59 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:16,879 the future 60 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:18,720 this summer in houston the vice 61 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:20,400 president welcomed what he called the 62 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:23,920 newest class of american heroes 63 00:02:29,589 --> 00:02:27,840 the 2017 class of nasa astronauts 64 00:02:31,509 --> 00:02:29,599 he said they will carry our national 65 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:31,519 nation to even greater heights of 66 00:02:34,229 --> 00:02:32,800 discovery 67 00:02:36,150 --> 00:02:34,239 and inspire our children and 68 00:02:38,309 --> 00:02:36,160 grandchildren every bit as much as their 69 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:38,319 forebears in the storied american 70 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:39,519 program 71 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:41,920 those 12 men and women are of the 72 00:02:47,190 --> 00:02:44,800 generation now the largest on earth 73 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:47,200 learned long after we took our first 74 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,400 small steps into the next frontier the 75 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:52,560 work begun here today will map out the 76 00:02:55,990 --> 00:02:54,560 giant leaps they will make on behalf of 77 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:56,000 their country 78 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:57,840 captain gene cernan the last man on the 79 00:03:03,270 --> 00:02:59,840 moon described the apollo program as a 80 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:03,280 decade out of time a 21st century event 81 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:06,080 born into the middle of the 20th century 82 00:03:10,630 --> 00:03:08,480 50 years later the time is at hand for 83 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:10,640 the heirs of apollo to take up the 84 00:03:14,149 --> 00:03:11,680 mantle 85 00:03:16,149 --> 00:03:14,159 it will be up to that new generation of 86 00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:16,159 innovators and explorers to lead the 87 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:18,400 next great adventure 88 00:03:23,190 --> 00:03:21,280 it is up to us to pass them the torch 89 00:03:25,350 --> 00:03:23,200 it is now my great pleasure to welcome 90 00:03:26,949 --> 00:03:25,360 the chair of the national space council 91 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:26,959 and the vice president of the united 92 00:03:41,250 --> 00:03:29,820 states the honorable mike pence 93 00:03:41,660 --> 00:03:41,260 [Applause] 94 00:03:46,350 --> 00:03:41,670 [Music] 95 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:46,360 [Applause] 96 00:03:52,149 --> 00:03:47,410 [Music] 97 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:53,509 thank you all 98 00:04:00,309 --> 00:03:58,149 general daily thank you for that kind 99 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:00,319 introduction 100 00:04:05,509 --> 00:04:02,480 and thank you for your extraordinary 101 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:05,519 record of service to the united states 102 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:16,390 members of the cabinet distinguished 103 00:04:19,909 --> 00:04:18,239 members of congress who join us here 104 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:19,919 today honored guests 105 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:21,280 and to our gracious hosts the 106 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:23,600 smithsonian institution the national air 107 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:25,040 and space museum 108 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:28,080 and all the men and women of the stephen 109 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:28,960 f 110 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:31,600 udvar-hazy center it is my great honor 111 00:04:34,950 --> 00:04:33,040 to be with you today here at the 112 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:34,960 inaugural meeting 113 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:37,440 of the reconstituted national space 114 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:47,749 and i bring greetings from a man who is 115 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:49,120 committed 116 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:51,680 to american leadership on earth and in 117 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:54,240 the boundless expanse of space the 45th 118 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:55,680 president of the united states of 119 00:04:58,570 --> 00:04:56,720 america 120 00:05:04,390 --> 00:04:58,580 president donald trump 121 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:04,400 [Applause] 122 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:06,080 in his inaugural address the president 123 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:08,560 rededicated america once again 124 00:05:13,909 --> 00:05:10,720 to lead in the heavens and in his words 125 00:05:15,430 --> 00:05:13,919 to unlock the mysteries of space 126 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:15,440 and to guide this new era of american 127 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:16,800 space leadership president trump 128 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:18,800 relaunched the national space council 129 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:20,400 and it is 130 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:22,080 my great honor in fact it's very 131 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,160 humbling for me to have the opportunity 132 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:26,160 to serve as its chair at the first 133 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:29,199 meeting in nearly a quarter century 134 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:30,720 i can't think of a better place for this 135 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:32,000 first meeting than right here at the 136 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:33,840 national air and space museum in the 137 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:36,080 hangars and galleries of this museum 138 00:05:40,390 --> 00:05:37,600 some of the great monuments of human 139 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:40,400 ingenuity and daring have come to rest 140 00:05:43,350 --> 00:05:41,840 the first airplane to complete a 141 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:43,360 transcontinental voyage across the 142 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:46,960 united states which took 49 days in 143 00:05:50,469 --> 00:05:48,800 1911. 144 00:05:52,070 --> 00:05:50,479 behind all of you 145 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:52,080 the spy plane that led america's 146 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:53,759 reconnaissance operations during the 147 00:05:58,230 --> 00:05:56,160 cold war faster than three times the 148 00:06:00,629 --> 00:05:58,240 speed of sound into more than 16 miles 149 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:00,639 above the earth the legendary sr-71 150 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:02,000 blackbird 151 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:03,840 and the shuttle behind me 152 00:06:07,029 --> 00:06:06,080 that ferried astronauts to space for 153 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:07,039 more than 154 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:11,039 26 years and logged a record of 148 155 00:06:13,830 --> 00:06:12,080 million 156 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:13,840 miles the space 157 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:25,909 each vessel here represents a pinnacle 158 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:27,360 in the history of man's quest for 159 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:29,520 knowledge and adventure they remind us 160 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:31,360 of the giants on whose shoulders we all 161 00:06:34,150 --> 00:06:32,479 stand 162 00:06:35,749 --> 00:06:34,160 they inspire the millions of visitors 163 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,759 who pass through this museum every year 164 00:06:39,590 --> 00:06:37,440 to dream bigger work harder and push 165 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:39,600 farther in our own day 166 00:06:42,629 --> 00:06:41,199 today in the shadow of this history we 167 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:42,639 pledge to do what america has always 168 00:06:45,110 --> 00:06:43,600 done 169 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:45,120 we will push the boundaries of human 170 00:06:49,430 --> 00:06:47,680 knowledge we will blaze new trails into 171 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:49,440 that great frontier 172 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:52,479 and we will once again astonish the 173 00:07:03,350 --> 00:06:56,400 world as we boldly go to meet our future 174 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:04,870 now 175 00:07:07,830 --> 00:07:06,560 it's all together fitting that we chose 176 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:07,840 this week for the first meeting of the 177 00:07:12,629 --> 00:07:09,520 national space council 178 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:12,639 yesterday marked the 60th anniversary 179 00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:14,080 of sputnik 180 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:16,639 that 184 pound satellite that changed 181 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:18,880 the course of history 182 00:07:23,990 --> 00:07:21,360 on that day six decades ago yesterday 183 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:24,000 the race for space began 184 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:26,880 and the then soviet union took an early 185 00:07:29,670 --> 00:07:28,160 lead 186 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:29,680 but the sight of that light blinking 187 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:31,919 across the that october sky spurred 188 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:34,160 america to action we refused to accept a 189 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:35,759 future in space 190 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:37,280 written by the enemies of freedom and so 191 00:07:40,469 --> 00:07:39,039 the united states of america vowed to 192 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:40,479 claim our rightful place as the 193 00:07:46,150 --> 00:07:43,199 undisputed leader in the exploration of 194 00:07:50,629 --> 00:07:46,160 the heavens and 12 years later 195 00:07:59,589 --> 00:07:50,639 with one giant leap for mankind america 196 00:08:03,830 --> 00:08:02,230 but more than half a century later 197 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:03,840 we've seeded ground 198 00:08:07,189 --> 00:08:05,599 and so we gather here today to renew 199 00:08:08,469 --> 00:08:07,199 this same mission 200 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:08,479 in our time 201 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:10,400 by reviving the national space council 202 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:12,240 president donald trump has declared to 203 00:08:23,029 --> 00:08:15,280 all of the world america will lead in 204 00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:24,710 for my part as i said it's an honor to 205 00:08:28,869 --> 00:08:26,720 chair this council i i caught space 206 00:08:30,710 --> 00:08:28,879 fever when i was a kid back in a small 207 00:08:32,149 --> 00:08:30,720 town in southern indiana 208 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:32,159 some of the most precious memories of my 209 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:33,360 youth were 210 00:08:36,870 --> 00:08:35,039 my little family gathered around a black 211 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:36,880 and white television watching images of 212 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:38,640 american heroes making history in the 213 00:08:41,430 --> 00:08:39,760 stars 214 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:41,440 as a member of congress 215 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:43,120 i actually asked to serve on the nasa 216 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:44,959 subcommittee in my very first year in 217 00:08:48,790 --> 00:08:46,320 the congress i had the privilege along 218 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:48,800 with my wife and all of our children to 219 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:51,680 attend several space shuttle launches as 220 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:52,959 a family 221 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:55,040 i actually have no doubt that as i told 222 00:08:59,350 --> 00:08:57,839 the general this morning a fellow marine 223 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:59,360 with my son that 224 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:00,959 i think my son was inspired to be a 225 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:02,640 marine corps aviator when he was a 226 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:04,080 ten-year-old boy sat in those 227 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:06,399 grandstands and watched with awe 228 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:09,040 as america's astronauts hurtled into the 229 00:09:12,070 --> 00:09:10,160 heavens 230 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:12,080 now i said at the time that the sights 231 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:13,760 and sounds of the launch at cape 232 00:09:17,350 --> 00:09:16,160 canaveral were miraculous it was almost 233 00:09:20,150 --> 00:09:17,360 as though the 234 00:09:21,190 --> 00:09:20,160 as the flames came from beneath the ship 235 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:21,200 it was 236 00:09:26,070 --> 00:09:24,399 birth to a piece of the sun and sending 237 00:09:28,070 --> 00:09:26,080 it home the power 238 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:28,080 and the symbolism of unquestioned 239 00:09:31,509 --> 00:09:30,480 american leadership was inspiring to us 240 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:31,519 all 241 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:34,000 but in recent years the clarity of our 242 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:35,519 purpose and the confidence of our 243 00:09:38,710 --> 00:09:37,040 conviction that propelled the united 244 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:38,720 states to be a vanguard of space 245 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:40,160 exploration 246 00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:41,760 seems to have waned 247 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:43,920 america seems to have lost our edge in 248 00:09:47,870 --> 00:09:45,120 space 249 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:47,880 and those days are over 250 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:56,389 because the american people never lost 251 00:10:00,310 --> 00:09:58,480 our passion to explore space and uncover 252 00:10:02,310 --> 00:10:00,320 its secrets this summer i visited the 253 00:10:04,230 --> 00:10:02,320 kennedy space center at cape canaveral 254 00:10:05,990 --> 00:10:04,240 the johnson space center in houston 255 00:10:07,990 --> 00:10:06,000 where i met with men and women of nasa 256 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:08,000 including as the general said the newest 257 00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:09,760 class of astronauts 258 00:10:13,990 --> 00:10:12,240 they still embody as generations did 259 00:10:15,430 --> 00:10:14,000 before they embody the courage and 260 00:10:17,430 --> 00:10:15,440 excellence that's long inspired the 261 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:17,440 american people but for too long our 262 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:18,800 government's commitment has failed to 263 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:20,880 match our people's spirit and meet our 264 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:22,240 nation's needs 265 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:24,160 the truth is that america entered this 266 00:10:28,150 --> 00:10:25,440 new millennium 267 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:28,160 without a coherent policy a coherent 268 00:10:31,269 --> 00:10:30,079 vision for outer space 269 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:31,279 and in the absence of american 270 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:32,880 leadership other nations have seized the 271 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:34,560 opportunity to stake their claim in the 272 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:36,480 infinite frontier 273 00:10:41,190 --> 00:10:38,720 rather than lead in space too often 274 00:10:44,230 --> 00:10:41,200 we've chosen to drift 275 00:10:45,509 --> 00:10:44,240 and as we learned 60 years ago 276 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:45,519 when we drift 277 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:47,279 we fall behind 278 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:48,720 our struggle to define the direction and 279 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:50,560 purpose of america's space program dates 280 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:53,440 back decades to the post-apollo period 281 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:55,040 we had just won the race to the moon and 282 00:10:58,870 --> 00:10:56,720 suddenly the question became what should 283 00:11:01,269 --> 00:10:58,880 we do where should we go 284 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:01,279 next in the debate that followed sending 285 00:11:05,350 --> 00:11:03,120 americans to the moon was treated as a 286 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:05,360 triumph to be remembered but not 287 00:11:07,990 --> 00:11:06,560 repeated 288 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:08,000 every passing year that the moon 289 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:10,160 remained squarely in the rearview mirror 290 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:12,000 further eroded our ability to return to 291 00:11:15,590 --> 00:11:13,680 the lunar domain and made it more likely 292 00:11:17,750 --> 00:11:15,600 that we would forget why we 293 00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:17,760 ever wanted to go in the first place 294 00:11:21,430 --> 00:11:19,360 and now we find ourselves in a position 295 00:11:23,269 --> 00:11:21,440 where the united states has not sent an 296 00:11:25,509 --> 00:11:23,279 american astronaut 297 00:11:28,069 --> 00:11:25,519 beyond low earth orbit 298 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:28,079 in 45 years 299 00:11:32,630 --> 00:11:29,920 across the board our space program has 300 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:32,640 suffered from apathy and neglect 301 00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:34,240 when the space shuttle program ended in 302 00:11:38,949 --> 00:11:37,200 2011 we had four years to find an 303 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:38,959 assured way for our astronauts to get 304 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:41,120 into space in the meantime 305 00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:43,600 we agreed to pay russia to hitch a ride 306 00:11:46,310 --> 00:11:45,040 on their rockets to the international 307 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:46,320 space station 308 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:48,480 but four years turned into five 309 00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:50,320 and five years turned into six and here 310 00:11:54,949 --> 00:11:51,200 we are 311 00:11:56,230 --> 00:11:54,959 in 2017 still relying on the russians to 312 00:11:58,310 --> 00:11:56,240 ferry our astronauts to the 313 00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:58,320 international space station at a cost 314 00:12:01,990 --> 00:12:01,040 per seat that now stands at more than 76 315 00:12:03,350 --> 00:12:02,000 million 316 00:12:04,949 --> 00:12:03,360 dollars 317 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,959 meanwhile rather than competing with 318 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:06,480 other nations to agree the best space 319 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:08,320 technology the previous administration 320 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:10,160 chose capitulation 321 00:12:13,509 --> 00:12:11,519 according to the u.s intelligence 322 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:13,519 community russia and china are pursuing 323 00:12:17,509 --> 00:12:15,120 a full range of anti-satellite 324 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:17,519 technology to reduce u.s military 325 00:12:21,509 --> 00:12:19,200 effectiveness and they're increasingly 326 00:12:23,269 --> 00:12:21,519 considering attacks against satellite 327 00:12:24,949 --> 00:12:23,279 systems as part of their future warfare 328 00:12:26,629 --> 00:12:24,959 doctrine 329 00:12:29,269 --> 00:12:26,639 america's abdication of leadership in 330 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:29,279 space has spurred our nation to action 331 00:12:34,069 --> 00:12:30,560 once more 332 00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:34,079 and just as with sputnik six decades ago 333 00:12:39,430 --> 00:12:36,720 we have resolved with the leadership of 334 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:39,440 president donald trump to never again 335 00:12:43,580 --> 00:12:43,040 let america fall behind in the race for 336 00:12:48,949 --> 00:12:43,590 space 337 00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:51,269 that's what brings us here today 338 00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:52,800 and under the president's leadership we 339 00:12:56,870 --> 00:12:54,720 will restore our proud legacy 340 00:12:59,990 --> 00:12:56,880 of leadership on this next great 341 00:13:01,750 --> 00:13:00,000 frontier and america will lead again 342 00:13:03,430 --> 00:13:01,760 twice before america's had a national 343 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:03,440 space council charged with advising the 344 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:04,959 president on national policy and 345 00:13:08,230 --> 00:13:06,560 strategy for space 346 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:08,240 the first space council helped marshall 347 00:13:12,629 --> 00:13:10,399 america's energies and skills during the 348 00:13:14,629 --> 00:13:12,639 infancy of our attempts to reach the 349 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:14,639 stars and it was under the council's 350 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:16,639 watch that america put a man in outer 351 00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:18,240 space but a man on the moon with less 352 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:20,880 than a decade between them now president 353 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:23,360 trump has charged this national space 354 00:13:27,590 --> 00:13:25,360 council with reviewing america's current 355 00:13:29,430 --> 00:13:27,600 policy and our long-range goals in 356 00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:29,440 coordinating all national space 357 00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:31,839 activities from security to commerce to 358 00:13:34,870 --> 00:13:33,200 exploration 359 00:13:37,509 --> 00:13:34,880 today more than ever before our nation's 360 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:37,519 prosperity security and identity depend 361 00:13:41,110 --> 00:13:39,120 on american leadership in space and the 362 00:13:43,430 --> 00:13:41,120 membership of this council 363 00:13:44,949 --> 00:13:43,440 all members of our cabinet critical 364 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:44,959 members of our national security 365 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:47,360 infrastructure reflect the multi-faceted 366 00:13:51,110 --> 00:13:49,440 nature of our work 367 00:13:52,389 --> 00:13:51,120 joining me here today as members of this 368 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:52,399 council are several members of the 369 00:13:57,189 --> 00:13:54,480 president's cabinet leaders in defense 370 00:13:59,269 --> 00:13:57,199 intelligence commerce transportation 371 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:59,279 space exploration science 372 00:14:03,030 --> 00:14:01,440 and technology would you please give 373 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:03,040 them another round of applause for 374 00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:04,560 making 375 00:14:10,270 --> 00:14:05,680 this 376 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:13,670 [Applause] 377 00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:15,120 but to fully unlock the mysteries of 378 00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:17,040 space president trump recognizes we must 379 00:14:20,949 --> 00:14:19,279 look beyond the halls of government and 380 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,959 for input and guidance at the 381 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:22,480 president's direction the national space 382 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:23,920 council will also 383 00:14:28,150 --> 00:14:26,240 in his words draw from the expertise and 384 00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:28,160 insights from scientists innovators and 385 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:30,560 business leaders like never before we 386 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:32,800 will tap into the bottomless well of 387 00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:35,600 american innovation once again 388 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:37,040 american companies are on the cutting 389 00:14:40,389 --> 00:14:38,560 edge of space technology and they're 390 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:40,399 developing new rockets spaceships and 391 00:14:44,389 --> 00:14:41,920 satellites that will take us further 392 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:44,399 into space faster than ever before like 393 00:14:47,829 --> 00:14:46,000 the railroads that brought american 394 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:47,839 explorers entrepreneurs and settlers to 395 00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:49,519 tame the wild west these groundbreaking 396 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:51,120 new technologies will 397 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:53,040 open untold opportunities to extend the 398 00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:54,959 range of american action and values into 399 00:14:59,350 --> 00:14:56,959 the new worlds of outer space and by 400 00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:59,360 fostering much stronger partnerships 401 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:00,720 between the federal government and the 402 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:02,800 realm of industry and bringing the full 403 00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:05,120 force of our national interest of air 404 00:15:07,829 --> 00:15:06,720 american leadership in space will be 405 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:07,839 assured 406 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:09,440 the objectives of the national space 407 00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:10,880 council are clear 408 00:15:15,269 --> 00:15:12,880 the president has charged us with laying 409 00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:15,279 the foundation for america to maintain a 410 00:15:19,269 --> 00:15:17,279 constant commercial human presence in 411 00:15:21,030 --> 00:15:19,279 low earth orbit from there 412 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:21,040 we will turn our attention back toward 413 00:15:25,910 --> 00:15:22,720 our celestial neighbors 414 00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:25,920 we will return american astronauts to 415 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:28,320 the moon not only to leave behind 416 00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:30,480 footprints and flags but to build the 417 00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:33,680 foundation we need to send americans to 418 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:46,470 the moon will be a stepping stone a 419 00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:48,079 training ground a venue to strengthen 420 00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:49,279 our commercial and international 421 00:15:54,069 --> 00:15:51,199 partnerships as we refocus america's 422 00:15:55,269 --> 00:15:54,079 space program toward human space 423 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:55,279 exploration 424 00:15:58,710 --> 00:15:56,800 and under president trump this council 425 00:16:01,030 --> 00:15:58,720 will spur the development of space 426 00:16:02,790 --> 00:16:01,040 technology to protect america's national 427 00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:02,800 security 428 00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:07,040 i saw firsthand when i visited schriever 429 00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:08,880 air force base and the redstone arsenal 430 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:10,560 earlier this year 431 00:16:14,069 --> 00:16:11,920 as i said our adversaries are 432 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:14,079 aggressively developing jamming 433 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:15,920 hacking and other technologies intended 434 00:16:19,829 --> 00:16:17,360 to military surveillance 435 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:19,839 navigation communication systems 436 00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:21,440 in the face of these actions america 437 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:24,000 must be as dominant in space as we are 438 00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:25,680 here on earth 439 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:27,360 my friends the task that lies before us 440 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:28,880 will require the highest level of 441 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:31,360 commitment and dedication 442 00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:33,040 now the work before us 443 00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:34,480 will be difficult 444 00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:36,320 but difficulty always brings out 445 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:38,000 america's best 446 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:42,720 by anyone anytime 447 00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:44,320 we won the race to the moon a half a 448 00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:46,079 century ago 449 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:48,959 and now we will win the 21st century in 450 00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:50,490 space 451 00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:55,199 [Applause] 452 00:16:58,389 --> 00:16:56,720 under president trump's leadership and 453 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:58,399 with the guidance of this national space 454 00:17:02,870 --> 00:16:59,920 council the united states will usher in 455 00:17:05,189 --> 00:17:02,880 a new era of space leadership for our 456 00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:05,199 nation that will benefit every facet of 457 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,640 our national life will strengthen our 458 00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:08,640 economy as we unlock new opportunities 459 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:10,799 new technologies and new sources of 460 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:13,120 prosperity we'll inspire our children to 461 00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:15,120 seek education in science technology 462 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:16,559 engineering and math 463 00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:18,400 we'll enhance our defense 464 00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:20,319 and advance the security of our citizens 465 00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:21,919 but most of all 466 00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:24,000 as the president believes 467 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:26,640 we will renew the american spirit itself 468 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,240 and rekindle our belief that america can 469 00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:30,559 accomplish anything 470 00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:32,799 as president trump has said 471 00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:35,600 in his words it is america's destiny 472 00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:38,080 to be the leader amongst nations on our 473 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:40,480 adventure into the great unknown 474 00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:43,440 and today we begin that latest chapter 475 00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:44,960 of that adventure 476 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:48,000 but as we embark let us have faith 477 00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:50,480 faith as the old book teaches us that if 478 00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:52,400 we rise to the heavens 479 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:53,840 he will be there 480 00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:55,760 and as we make plans and we prepare 481 00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:57,919 recommendations for our president 482 00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:00,480 and our leaders in the congress we will 483 00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:02,240 also do so with the mind that there will 484 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:04,799 be courageous men and women 485 00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:07,440 who will make those plans a reality 486 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:09,520 and our faith in them 487 00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:11,200 and our faith that they will not go 488 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,480 alone 489 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:15,120 will sustain us as we go as it ever has 490 00:18:17,909 --> 00:18:16,480 before 491 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,919 so with thanks for all the members of 492 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:19,440 the space council thanks for all the 493 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:21,520 honored guests from whom we will hear 494 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:23,919 welcome to the first gathering of the 495 00:18:32,970 --> 00:19:38,710 [Applause] 496 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:41,750 ladies and gentlemen please welcome 497 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,640 marilyn hewson president and ceo 498 00:19:50,230 --> 00:19:47,039 lockheed martin 499 00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:50,240 dennis muellenberg president and ceo the 500 00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:57,110 david thompson president and ceo orbital 501 00:20:05,029 --> 00:19:58,400 atk 502 00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:05,039 [Applause] 503 00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:06,799 as our guests take their seats allow me 504 00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:09,760 to uh uh welcome them as i'll do 505 00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,600 momentarily but also i want to i want to 506 00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:13,039 recognize all the distinguished members 507 00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:15,440 of the national space council uh and all 508 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:17,120 the distinguished americans who've 509 00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,360 gathered us uh for this this first 510 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,200 meeting um 511 00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:23,280 uh if you would uh hold your applause 512 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:24,559 i'll get through this whole list but i 513 00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:25,600 want to make sure you know all the 514 00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:27,200 members of this council secretary of 515 00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:28,799 state rex tillerson 516 00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:29,840 is here 517 00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:32,000 deputy secretary defense paul shanahan 518 00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,000 our secretary of commerce wilbur ross 519 00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,559 secretary of transportation elaine chao 520 00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:38,320 acting secretary of homeland security 521 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:39,520 elaine duke 522 00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:41,679 director of national intelligence 523 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:43,039 dan coats 524 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,400 director of the office of management and 525 00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:46,080 budget mick mulvaney 526 00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,679 assistant to the president for national 527 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:50,400 security affairs general h.r mcmaster 528 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:52,080 the administrator 529 00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:53,200 of uh 530 00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:55,280 of nasa robert lightfoot 531 00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:57,120 deputy chief technology officer for the 532 00:21:01,669 --> 00:21:00,240 united states uh michael crazios 533 00:21:03,590 --> 00:21:01,679 assistant to the president for homeland 534 00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:03,600 security tom bossert and the vice 535 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:05,840 chairman of the joint chiefs of staff 536 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:08,320 general paul selva would you join me in 537 00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:09,840 thanking all of the members of the panel 538 00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:19,110 with that this first meeting of the 539 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:20,960 national space council's called order i 540 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:23,200 want to thank uh i want to thank all the 541 00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:25,440 distinguished uh guests who are with us 542 00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:27,280 today for presentations on this first 543 00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,840 panel as i said in my opening remarks 544 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:31,600 today's meeting is an opportunity for us 545 00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:33,360 to hear from leaders in our space 546 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,039 community 547 00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,799 and we have a great lineup today and i'm 548 00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:38,159 eager to hear their thoughts as our 549 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:40,559 entire council is our first panel is 550 00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:43,440 focused on the civil space program and 551 00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:47,039 deep space exploration efforts 552 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,360 you just received a proper interdiction 553 00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:51,600 onto the stage so let me begin with the 554 00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:53,440 chairman president ceo of lockheed 555 00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:55,200 martin i'm marilyn hewson for your 556 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:56,640 opening remarks 557 00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,400 thank you mr vice president mr vice 558 00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:00,240 president and distinguished members of 559 00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,240 the national space council 560 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:04,080 it is an honor to appear before you 561 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:07,440 today to contribute to a bold new vision 562 00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:10,480 for u.s leadership in space 563 00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:13,520 this is an exciting time for our nation 564 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:15,120 the re-establishment of the national 565 00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:17,440 space council comes as a new generation 566 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:20,480 of young americans looks to the moon 567 00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:23,760 mars and beyond with optimism 568 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:26,559 energy and wonder 569 00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,360 space has always been a frontier worthy 570 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,200 of the american spirit 571 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:34,320 it demands our ingenuity and daring and 572 00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,120 it drives us to visionary research and 573 00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:39,679 long-term collaboration 574 00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:41,919 and throughout history we have proven 575 00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:45,200 that u.s ventures in space lead to broad 576 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:47,600 societal benefits that lift our national 577 00:22:53,909 --> 00:22:51,600 economy and strengthen us as one people 578 00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:53,919 for decades our technological leadership 579 00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:56,320 in space has strengthened our national 580 00:23:02,390 --> 00:22:59,760 security so that americans can live work 581 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,400 and trade in peace 582 00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:04,720 and just this past month we once again 583 00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:07,200 saw the tremendous value of our space 584 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:08,400 infrastructure 585 00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:10,480 as our nation was hit by three 586 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,679 hurricanes of extraordinary power 587 00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,080 because of our investments in space our 588 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,480 satellites helped government leaders 589 00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:20,320 plan for the worst 590 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:22,960 they helped millions of citizens prepare 591 00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:25,760 and evacuate key areas and in the 592 00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:29,679 process countless lives were saved 593 00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:31,840 at lockheed martin we have been proud to 594 00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:33,679 invest and to support our nation's 595 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:36,720 ventures in space from interplanetary 596 00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,000 exploration to national security 597 00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,400 and among our many partnerships today we 598 00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:44,559 are honored to be building the orion 599 00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:47,600 deep space exploration vehicle for nasa 600 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,080 which will soon take american astronauts 601 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:52,400 back to the moon and farther than we've 602 00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,720 ever gone before 603 00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:56,720 as we look to the challenges of the 21st 604 00:24:02,070 --> 00:23:59,200 century it is clear that the pace of 605 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:02,080 technological change is accelerating and 606 00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,440 that it is imperative our nation act 607 00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:08,159 at lockheed martin we see three keys to 608 00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:11,120 securing american leadership in space 609 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:14,000 our nation will need clear and strong 610 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:16,000 government leadership 611 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,840 visionary programs and stable sustained 612 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:21,600 investment 613 00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:23,840 by taking these positive actions we will 614 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:26,960 enable industry to plan invest and 615 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:29,360 innovate over the long term 616 00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:32,080 and in turn our nation will foster a 617 00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,960 robust u.s supply chain with advanced 618 00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:36,480 manufacturers 619 00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:38,880 high quality jobs and transformative 620 00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:40,640 technologies 621 00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,039 nothing better represents america's 622 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:46,480 optimism about the future than space and 623 00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:48,400 nothing is more inspiring to the next 624 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,720 generation of science technology 625 00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:52,960 engineering and math students than in 626 00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,240 america resolved to explore and unlock 627 00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,960 the mysteries of the universe together 628 00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,240 thank you and i look forward to your 629 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:02,480 questions 630 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,400 uh thank you very much maryland for your 631 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,720 comments next we'll hear opening remarks 632 00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:08,240 from the chairman president ceo of the 633 00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:11,600 boeing company dennis mullenberg welcome 634 00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:14,080 thank you good morning mr vice president 635 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,480 distinguished guests industry colleagues 636 00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,400 and fellow panelists 637 00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,400 i want to begin by thanking you mr vice 638 00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:22,320 president for reconstituting the 639 00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,200 national space council that's a big step 640 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:27,360 for our country an important one and i 641 00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:29,039 believe through this forum the 642 00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:31,039 government industry and academia can 643 00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:32,720 discuss how to co-author the next 644 00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,559 chapter of american leadership in space 645 00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,559 boeing employees around the globe strive 646 00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,400 every day to deliver on our 647 00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,480 inspirational purpose and mission to 648 00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:44,240 connect protect 649 00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,720 explore and inspire the world through 650 00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:48,480 aerospace innovation 651 00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:50,400 our aim is to lead the world in space 652 00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:52,880 exploration and to be a global champion 653 00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:56,480 for robust funding advocacy talent and 654 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:58,720 execution in both the civilian and 655 00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:01,440 military space arenas 656 00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:03,919 we are drawn to exploring the unknown 657 00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:06,080 and unraveling the universe's greatest 658 00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:07,600 mysteries 659 00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:09,919 it is this innate fascination with what 660 00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:12,640 comes next that has inspired us to join 661 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,360 with nasa and international partners in 662 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:17,520 a shared mission that has over the 663 00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:19,760 course of decades celebrated lunar 664 00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:20,960 footsteps 665 00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:23,279 space shuttle launches and the assembly 666 00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:25,440 of the international space station to 667 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:26,960 name a few 668 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:28,960 while proud of our past 669 00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:31,440 we are focused on the future 670 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:33,279 we continue to innovate and lead in 671 00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:35,760 every aspect of civil space operations 672 00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,559 for example nasa's space launch system 673 00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,559 built by boeing and our teammates will 674 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:43,039 be the largest and most powerful rocket 675 00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:44,080 ever built 676 00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:44,799 for 677 00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:46,960 propelling the orion capsule and 678 00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:49,760 humanity further into the solar system 679 00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:51,600 than ever before 680 00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:54,240 and our cst 100 starliner 681 00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,080 launched on the 100 percent mission 682 00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:58,559 successful united launch alliance atlas 683 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:01,760 v rocket will return american astronauts 684 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:05,200 to space on an american-built capsule in 685 00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,159 the not too distant future 686 00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:10,159 while others may dream 687 00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,000 we actually do 688 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,080 and we do with the resources and 689 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:16,640 expertise to deliver on our commitments 690 00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,960 working together we will help humankind 691 00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:20,399 explore deep space 692 00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,240 and play a leadership role in america's 693 00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,240 journey to mars 694 00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:26,159 as well as revolutionize launch and 695 00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:29,360 space access through pioneering work on 696 00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:31,840 programs like the x-37b 697 00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,559 and the xs1 phantom express with our 698 00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:36,640 united states air force and darpa 699 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,080 customers 700 00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,080 we also are delivering advanced military 701 00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,159 space solutions such as our wideband 702 00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:44,640 global satcom satellites to provide 703 00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:47,360 critical anywhere anytime communications 704 00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:49,840 for troops around the globe 705 00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,399 including those deployed in combat but 706 00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:53,919 our collective success on this 707 00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:57,679 unprecedented journey is not guaranteed 708 00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:00,159 everyone in this room government and 709 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,600 industry alike 710 00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,760 must commit to fighting for american 711 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,000 leadership in space 712 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,840 we believe the aerospace industry has an 713 00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,360 important role to play in partnering 714 00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:11,440 with the government to enact policies 715 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,039 that not only will advance our efforts 716 00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:15,520 in space but also grow the economy 717 00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:18,399 support american jobs with an emphasis 718 00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,279 on restoring u.s manufacturing 719 00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,200 that's why i continue to ga engage on 720 00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:25,520 behalf of boeing in arenas like this as 721 00:28:29,549 --> 00:28:26,960 well as chairman of the aerospace 722 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:29,559 industries association a trade group 723 00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,760 representing the us aerospace and 724 00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:33,520 defense industry 725 00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,840 where we are engaged on capitol hill 726 00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:37,520 with the administration 727 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:39,440 and internationally 728 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:41,360 as america's largest manufacturing 729 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,480 exporter 730 00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:44,480 we're a big part of the 80 billion a 731 00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:46,720 year favorable trade balance that the 732 00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,120 u.s aerospace sector injects 733 00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:51,520 into the nation's economy 734 00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,679 in addition to the roughly 140 000 735 00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,039 employees who work directly for the 736 00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:57,360 boeing company across the country our 737 00:29:02,310 --> 00:28:59,760 supply chain of thousands of medium and 738 00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:02,320 small businesses in all 50 states 739 00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,279 support an additional 1.3 million 740 00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,279 american jobs 741 00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:09,600 consider the tremendous ripple effect 742 00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:12,000 that our industry has on the nation 743 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:14,000 boosting economies and spurring 744 00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:15,200 innovation 745 00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,360 in new technologies 746 00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:19,919 as a company and an industry we remain 747 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,559 committed to investing in our future 748 00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:24,320 from driving innovation to supporting 749 00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:27,039 quality jobs and capital investments and 750 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:28,480 working with the administration to 751 00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:30,960 advance policies such as comprehensive 752 00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,480 tax reform that will enable it 753 00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,399 continued space exploration will take 754 00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:38,640 resources and cooperation 755 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:40,720 we must commit to an uninterrupted human 756 00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:43,440 presence in orbit and accelerate our 757 00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,000 momentum towards deep space all too 758 00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,320 often when america withdraws other 759 00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,480 nations fill the void 760 00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:52,399 we want the united states to retain its 761 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:54,159 leadership position build on the 762 00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:55,919 progress and substantial investments 763 00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,039 that have been made in recent years 764 00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:01,200 i am inspired by the boundless 765 00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,320 opportunity we have before us 766 00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,120 space has a near universal ability to 767 00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:10,000 capture our imagination unlike anything 768 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,440 else to energize dreamers and doers 769 00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:14,880 alike 770 00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,279 achievements in space can unite a nation 771 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:20,880 and we are proud and it's a proud 772 00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,440 reminder that we can accomplish amazing 773 00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:25,360 things as a country when we work 774 00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,360 together 775 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,039 in that spirit i call upon the national 776 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,440 space council to set a bold national 777 00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:34,000 space agenda with clear actionable 778 00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:37,279 objectives and resources to match 779 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,399 that will help the united states 780 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,640 maintain its technological edge engage 781 00:30:44,549 --> 00:30:42,640 and grow future talent critical to our 782 00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,559 competitive advantage 783 00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:46,640 and it will excite and inspire 784 00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:49,520 generations of americans to come 785 00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,799 in closing 786 00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:53,039 robert gilruth the first director of 787 00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,760 nasa's manned spacecraft center 788 00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,519 said that one fundamental requirement 789 00:31:02,789 --> 00:30:59,760 for mission success was employing and i 790 00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:02,799 quote the kind of people who will not 791 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:05,200 permit it to fail 792 00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:06,720 vice president pence 793 00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:08,240 and members of the national space 794 00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:09,200 council 795 00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:12,080 we are those people 796 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:13,679 and you have our full commitment as the 797 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:15,440 boeing company and our teammates to 798 00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,640 ensure we will succeed in this important 799 00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:21,120 endeavor boeing will be there leading 800 00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,200 every step of the way thank you 801 00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:25,200 and i look forward to your questions 802 00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:26,480 great uh 803 00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:27,360 uh 804 00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,360 thank you dennis thank you for those 805 00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:31,360 words we look forward to dialogue before 806 00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,120 we get to questions 807 00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:35,679 david thompson who is president ceo of 808 00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:39,360 orbital atk welcome 809 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,120 mr vice president members of the 810 00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:43,200 national space council ladies and 811 00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,720 gentlemen good morning 812 00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:46,880 thank you for inviting me to participate 813 00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:49,519 in this important and timely discussion 814 00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,559 of our country's civil space programs 815 00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,640 with strong leadership from the national 816 00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:56,880 space council there are many exciting 817 00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,799 opportunities available 818 00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:01,440 to this administration for near-term 819 00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:03,679 space achievements i would like to 820 00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,919 highlight three areas that i believe 821 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:08,159 hold great promise for future 822 00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:11,200 accomplishments by nasa and other space 823 00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:13,760 related enterprises in the next five 824 00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:14,720 years 825 00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,159 first human voyages to cis lunar space 826 00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:20,720 today nasa is on the threshold of 827 00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:22,880 completing the development and in about 828 00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:25,440 two years conducting the initial flight 829 00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:27,919 of america's first deep space 830 00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:30,720 transportation system since the apollo 831 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,159 saturn vehicles of the late 1960s and 832 00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:37,200 early 1970s the space launch system 833 00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:39,279 rocket and its companion orion 834 00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:41,360 spacecraft will give our country the 835 00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:44,159 capability of returning astronauts to 836 00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:46,880 the vicinity of the moon both to further 837 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:49,440 explore the lunar environment and to 838 00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:52,880 test the technologies and operational 839 00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,039 operations required for future 840 00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:57,120 expeditions to mars 841 00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,080 now with renewed sense of purpose and 842 00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,120 urgency nasa and its industrial partners 843 00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:05,519 should be challenged to substantially 844 00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:08,720 accelerate the use and to fully exploit 845 00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,279 the capabilities of the sls orion system 846 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:15,200 backed by this administration's 847 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:18,640 financial and moral support u.s 848 00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:21,120 astronauts can carry out several 849 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:23,440 cis lunar voyages during the next five 850 00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,480 years 851 00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:26,880 including flights to the moon to in 852 00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:29,679 place and activate the first elements of 853 00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:32,559 a lunar orbit station which nasa calls 854 00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,039 the deep space gateway 855 00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:37,200 second international and commercial 856 00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:38,640 partnerships 857 00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:40,799 the international space station program 858 00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:43,039 has been a remarkably successful 859 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:46,399 collaboration of 16 countries led by the 860 00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,120 united states but facilitated and 861 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:51,360 enhanced by the technological 862 00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:54,240 operational and financial contributions 863 00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:56,960 of many of our closest allies in europe 864 00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,080 north and south america and asia as we 865 00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,399 extend the reach of human activity to 866 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:04,399 the lunar domain we should seek to 867 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:07,200 establish new long-term partnerships 868 00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:08,800 with those countries 869 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:10,800 who share similar goals and who can 870 00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,520 contribute important elements of a deep 871 00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:15,760 space infrastructure 872 00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:18,320 similarly over the past several decades 873 00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:20,879 nasa has pioneered an array of 874 00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:23,679 successful public-private partnerships 875 00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:25,679 that have resulted in accelerated 876 00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:27,919 innovation 877 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,919 and new more affordable space 878 00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:31,760 capabilities for both government 879 00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:34,639 missions and commercial applications 880 00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:37,359 as the space agency plans and implements 881 00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:40,159 our return to cis lunar space it should 882 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,639 aggressively engage with u s commercial 883 00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:44,879 enterprises that are willing to 884 00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,200 privately develop and operate systems 885 00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:49,919 that can provide a range of in-space 886 00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:53,679 utilities logistics and related services 887 00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:56,480 it should also encourage commercial use 888 00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:58,720 of the lunar orbit outposts for surface 889 00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:01,520 activities with scientific and economic 890 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:02,560 potential 891 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,960 by doing so nasa can leverage its 892 00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:06,960 limited budgets with the cost 893 00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,359 efficiencies of commercial development 894 00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:11,599 and operational approaches and through 895 00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:14,240 access to the resources of our private 896 00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:17,760 capital markets and third space-based 897 00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:19,280 science missions 898 00:35:23,829 --> 00:35:21,760 nasa's robotic spacecraft in earth orbit 899 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,839 and throughout the solar system have 900 00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,680 revolutionized the fields of 901 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:27,119 astrophysics 902 00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:30,160 solar physics planetary exploration and 903 00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:31,520 earth science 904 00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:33,440 during the last few decades space 905 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:35,280 missions to the planets have revealed 906 00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,160 their wonders and charted humankind's 907 00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,720 path to the solar system other nasa 908 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,200 missions have observed the universe with 909 00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:45,760 unprecedented resolution displaying its 910 00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:48,400 vastness and majesty and beginning the 911 00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:51,040 search for life elsewhere still other 912 00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:52,640 missions have monitored earth and 913 00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:54,960 provided us with essential information 914 00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,079 to be better stewards of our planet to 915 00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,480 assure us leadership in space science 916 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:02,640 and robotic exploration for the next 917 00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:05,359 decade and beyond it will be critical 918 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:07,520 for the space council to advocate for 919 00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:09,280 continued robust funding of these 920 00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:10,400 programs 921 00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:14,560 be a leader in developing the needed 922 00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,359 technologies to enable the use of a new 923 00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:19,760 generation of small satellites for 924 00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:21,599 scientific purposes 925 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:24,000 in conclusion the years immediately 926 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:26,320 ahead offer america the chance to lead 927 00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,200 the world in a new golden age of space 928 00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:31,200 achievement if we are bold in our 929 00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:34,480 aspirations and resolute in our actions 930 00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,880 under your leadership mr vice president 931 00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:38,480 the national space council can 932 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:41,280 orchestrate the combined creativity 933 00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,320 energies and skills of nasa other space 934 00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:46,560 related agencies and the u.s private 935 00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:49,040 sector to benefit our country's domestic 936 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,240 economy 937 00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,720 scientific and technological progress 938 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:55,119 and international standing thank you for 939 00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:57,200 this opportunity to present my views on 940 00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:59,200 this important topic i'll be happy to 941 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:01,280 respond to your questions 942 00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,720 that's great thank you thank you david 943 00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:04,400 thompson thank you for those thoughtful 944 00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:05,520 comments 945 00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,599 uh the chair will begin 946 00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:09,440 with a 947 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:16,310 i struck by your testimony this morning 948 00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:17,680 each of you 949 00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:20,000 marilyn you spoke about the imperative 950 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:23,040 of american action um dennis you you 951 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,720 spoke about the commitment to 952 00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:26,640 uninterrupted space that 953 00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:28,079 you cautioned about when america 954 00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:29,680 withdraws 955 00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:31,040 and david you spoke about the need to 956 00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:33,119 accelerate 957 00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:35,440 my my question is can you can you favor 958 00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:39,599 us with um how do you view america's 959 00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:46,150 have we fallen behind 960 00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:47,359 as 961 00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:48,960 we believe 962 00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:51,200 is that your judgment from the outside 963 00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:54,000 and how quickly can we seize american 964 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:56,160 leadership again in a broad range of 965 00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:57,119 areas 966 00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:59,359 in space and maybe just uh 967 00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:00,880 briefly on that and then i'll go to the 968 00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,400 rest of the panel 969 00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:04,400 maryland and then maybe 970 00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:05,599 others 971 00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:07,760 thank you mr vice president i would say 972 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:10,400 first of all that it is very important 973 00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:12,800 today that we that it is an imperative 974 00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,320 in my view 975 00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:16,079 national security 976 00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,280 economic growth as well as being able to 977 00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,079 help with education and understanding of 978 00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:24,640 our world is imperative around space it 979 00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:26,960 has been for many many years it's even 980 00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,320 more so today 981 00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:30,320 to a question about being behind i think 982 00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:31,839 as you hear from the national security 983 00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:34,079 panel you'll hear more insight to this 984 00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:36,079 but i do think that we have to be 985 00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,920 vigilant on that front as you've 986 00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:39,839 outlined in your remarks from an 987 00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:41,839 economic security standpoint and from an 988 00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:44,160 economic growth standpoint space is an 989 00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:47,040 inspirational area for us as a nation 990 00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,079 not just because it's a new frontier but 991 00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:52,160 because it makes our lives better we can 992 00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,079 look at so many technologies that we 993 00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:56,240 have gained through our our exploration 994 00:39:01,990 --> 00:38:58,880 of space and i think getting our young 995 00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,000 people the next generation as well as as 996 00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:04,240 americans today focused on that will 997 00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,079 bring more jobs will bring more 998 00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,400 inspiration and will help us to continue 999 00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:10,160 to lead as a nation great so it's an 1000 00:39:12,829 --> 00:39:12,160 imperative but dennis how quickly do we 1001 00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:12,839 get 1002 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,079 back in the pole position in every area 1003 00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,480 of space exploration in your mind 1004 00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:20,720 how quickly can we get there 1005 00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:22,560 sir i think we can get there quickly if 1006 00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:24,560 we have focus and commitment and 1007 00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,119 resourcing i share the sense of urgency 1008 00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,599 here we see countries around the world 1009 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:31,520 investing in space to gain competitive 1010 00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,720 advantage 1011 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,800 we know that investing in space is 1012 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:36,720 important from a national security and 1013 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,720 economic standpoint we have the 1014 00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:40,800 resources available we have the talent 1015 00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:44,079 available we have the right programs in 1016 00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,040 place now it is important that we have 1017 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:50,000 long-term stability on funding 1018 00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:52,720 a clear commitment and clear actionable 1019 00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:54,640 objectives and with that i think we can 1020 00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:56,720 rally the whole country there there is 1021 00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:58,800 nothing more inspiring than the 1022 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:01,200 country's space program in terms of 1023 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,040 rallying today's industrial government 1024 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,280 partnerships and building the next 1025 00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:07,680 generation of talent right so i think we 1026 00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:08,800 can do it quickly and i think it's 1027 00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:11,359 measured in a matter of a handful of 1028 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:13,359 years and we can make clear progress 1029 00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:14,800 right out of the gates 1030 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:16,319 david you were talking about the ability 1031 00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:21,589 multiple 1032 00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:23,839 missions 1033 00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:26,000 the next five years do you share the 1034 00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:28,240 belief how quickly we can get 1035 00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,119 back in the forefront uh yes sir mr vice 1036 00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:32,880 president i do uh 1037 00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,359 i think nasa has done a fantastic job of 1038 00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:38,640 building the uh the basic uh uh 1039 00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:41,119 infrastructure that will allow us within 1040 00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,079 a period of five years or less to return 1041 00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,400 uh american astronauts to the vicinity 1042 00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:48,880 of the moon and shortly thereafter if we 1043 00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:52,000 so choose to return both astronauts and 1044 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:54,000 their robotic helpers to the surface of 1045 00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,960 the moon 1046 00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,359 uh so i believe this is uh this this is 1047 00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:59,520 feasible within a period of time of 1048 00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:02,000 approximately five years right 1049 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:03,920 uh well thank you all with that uh 1050 00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,640 secretary of state rex tillerson 1051 00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:08,560 well thank all of you for being with us 1052 00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:10,480 this morning and i think an important 1053 00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,640 point that has been made 1054 00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:14,800 in terms of the real value delivery of 1055 00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:17,200 undertaking a robust and vigorous deep 1056 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:19,119 space exploration program you touched on 1057 00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,880 is the inspiration 1058 00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:22,880 that it provides to 1059 00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:25,359 so many young boys young girls young men 1060 00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:26,880 and women to enter 1061 00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:28,720 fields of science technology engineering 1062 00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:30,240 and math study and then take that on to 1063 00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:31,440 their careers 1064 00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:32,960 that was the case for me neil 1065 00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,880 armstrong's landing on the moon inspired 1066 00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:36,640 me to want to go into a lifelong career 1067 00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:38,079 of engineering 1068 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,240 and so it is a broad impact not just for 1069 00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,160 our space program but it is how we 1070 00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,480 create the ability of our nation to have 1071 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,119 a very robust innovative spirit and 1072 00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:48,800 which is so fundamental to the broader 1073 00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:50,800 economic competitiveness of the u.s and 1074 00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:53,359 so i really share strongly the views 1075 00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:55,119 that this is going to deliver enormous 1076 00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:57,040 value far beyond just 1077 00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:58,720 our accomplishments and deep space 1078 00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,280 exploration and with that i had a couple 1079 00:42:05,670 --> 00:42:02,960 of questions one is 1080 00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:05,680 as we think about deep space exploration 1081 00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,560 and we have in in our space programs in 1082 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,079 the past we've had very successful 1083 00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:13,040 international consortium cooperation 1084 00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,480 partnerships 1085 00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:17,280 as we think about deep space exploration 1086 00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:19,280 what's the proper in your view what is 1087 00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:21,119 the proper architecture around an 1088 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:22,400 international 1089 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,680 effort 1090 00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:25,760 to put humans into deep space 1091 00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,920 exploration programs are there areas 1092 00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,839 that we should reserve to ourselves or 1093 00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:31,280 other areas that really lend themselves 1094 00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:33,280 to international consortium 1095 00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,800 and then as you think about that what 1096 00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:36,960 are there particular countries 1097 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,760 in your experience that we should be 1098 00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,920 developing this relationship and this 1099 00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:43,599 architecture with in particular where 1100 00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:49,510 mr secretary if i can take a first cut 1101 00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,920 at that i think a good model is the work 1102 00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:53,760 we've done together on the international 1103 00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,480 space station over the last many years 1104 00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:58,400 that has been a very successful endeavor 1105 00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:00,000 for our country with a number of 1106 00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,280 industrial partnerships and uh and 1107 00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:05,280 partnerships with other countries 1108 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:07,200 the key to success however is american 1109 00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:09,760 leadership so collaboration works it can 1110 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,920 make sense but it requires american 1111 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:12,960 leadership 1112 00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,760 and america architecting the system i 1113 00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,280 think there are similar opportunities 1114 00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,520 for deep space exploration but again i 1115 00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:21,280 think america needs to lead with the 1116 00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:24,319 technology lead with the architecture 1117 00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:26,560 lead in terms of building an 1118 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,720 infrastructure that will allow 1119 00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,480 international collaboration there are 1120 00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:32,960 certain elements of technology and 1121 00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,640 innovation too that i think are 1122 00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:36,480 appropriate for the united states to 1123 00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,720 keep for itself and that has to be part 1124 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:41,040 of architecting such a program 1125 00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,640 but i think the opportunity to bring in 1126 00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:44,560 additional resources talents with many 1127 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,640 of our global partners our allies 1128 00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,480 finding intersections between national 1129 00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,880 security and economic security are very 1130 00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,119 viable and those are the places where i 1131 00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:56,000 would look for partnerships 1132 00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,359 i would add on the deep space 1133 00:44:01,510 --> 00:43:59,599 exploration side orion is a good example 1134 00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,520 of that today we have the european space 1135 00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:03,040 agency that is building the service 1136 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:05,440 module for that this is going to be you 1137 00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:07,680 know it's a it's a proven technology 1138 00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:09,920 it's a capsule that we are moving 1139 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,240 forward with with nasa and we're very 1140 00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,400 pleased with where it is in its progress 1141 00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,319 so it's working today i think where we 1142 00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:18,240 also would look is 1143 00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,000 other countries is involved with the 1144 00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:21,599 infrastructure that we put in place in 1145 00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,400 space 1146 00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,160 but i would also think an important area 1147 00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:26,160 that we should keep in front of us as a 1148 00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,359 government is that in space we need to 1149 00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:31,760 have an international framework 1150 00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,680 regulatory framework because there are 1151 00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:36,160 so there are over 70 countries that are 1152 00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,760 that have missions in space today a 1153 00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:39,200 variety of different things that they're 1154 00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,319 doing and so 1155 00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:42,800 the the us should lead on helping to get 1156 00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:44,720 in place that regulatory framework 1157 00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:46,000 that's so important for those 1158 00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:48,000 international partnerships and for just 1159 00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,589 mr secretary i would agree i think the 1160 00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,960 discussions have started at a 1161 00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,800 preliminary level 1162 00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:00,720 between nasa and the european space 1163 00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:03,760 agency and and i would uh 1164 00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:05,040 recommend 1165 00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:07,200 the space council encourage 1166 00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:08,319 those 1167 00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:11,200 discussions i think nasa and esa have 1168 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,760 have been good partners on a variety of 1169 00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,240 human and robotic space 1170 00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:18,480 initiatives in the past and 1171 00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,960 could form the core international 1172 00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:22,560 coalition to 1173 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,680 see 1174 00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:25,200 humans move 1175 00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,870 uh thank you mr secretary if you have no 1176 00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,720 other questions i'll take a moment to 1177 00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:36,240 remind you that neil armstrong was a 1178 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:41,510 that would be purdue university in 1179 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,090 indiana 1180 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,000 [Laughter] 1181 00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:48,400 i appreciate very uh thoughtful comments 1182 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:50,319 and appreciate the secretary's presence 1183 00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,680 here today and 1184 00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:54,319 uh his engagement on this council uh 1185 00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:56,720 acting nasa administrator um 1186 00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,630 all right thank you vice president um i 1187 00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:04,400 think the the question i would have i'm 1188 00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:05,760 going to kind of direct it to david but 1189 00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:07,440 i'll let the other two jump in if you 1190 00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:08,640 get a chance 1191 00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:11,040 clearly we've advanced a lot since the 1192 00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:12,319 last time we went to the moon and 1193 00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:13,520 there's a lot of advancements that are 1194 00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,280 out there and i i'd be very interested 1195 00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:17,040 in your thoughts on the role of robotics 1196 00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:19,200 or other technologies um as we look at 1197 00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:20,800 going to lunar operations specifically 1198 00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:22,800 for you david um 1199 00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:24,880 you guys are working a lot in satellite 1200 00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:27,200 servicing and you're your cygnus cargo 1201 00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:28,240 vehicle that you're flying the 1202 00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:29,599 international space station today you're 1203 00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,760 looking at autonomous operations there 1204 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,520 how do you see that as an enabler as we 1205 00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:35,520 move forward into this area 1206 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:36,720 or other technologies that you want to 1207 00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,560 speak on that 1208 00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:40,640 thank you very much robert 1209 00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,079 i see uh the the near future uh 1210 00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,800 activities uh in uh the vicinity of the 1211 00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,800 moon differing in several important 1212 00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:50,240 respects from 1213 00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,680 our last human flights uh uh to the moon 1214 00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:55,440 uh almost 45 1215 00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:56,800 years ago 1216 00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:58,720 first i believe these 1217 00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:00,560 up these upcoming missions will 1218 00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:03,200 ultimately be of longer duration the the 1219 00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,680 longest period of time that uh humans 1220 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,119 have ever been in the vicinity of the 1221 00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:09,760 moon is less than five days 1222 00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:12,079 and as we go back i think we will 1223 00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:14,720 quickly amass the experience of weeks or 1224 00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:17,200 months of operations 1225 00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:19,599 in lunar orbit and on the surface of the 1226 00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:23,040 moon with human tended 1227 00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:26,160 platforms and and reusable systems that 1228 00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:29,359 can be uh left behind to be serviced by 1229 00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:32,240 many uh subsequent crews with respect to 1230 00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,119 uh 1231 00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:35,359 robotics and other autonomous systems 1232 00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:37,359 there have been enormous advances 1233 00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:39,280 in some cases spearheaded by nasa in 1234 00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:42,480 other cases by by the private sector or 1235 00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:45,280 the military in these technologies over 1236 00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,160 the intervening uh four decades 1237 00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:50,640 nasa has done uh quite a bit of this on 1238 00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:54,079 its own with its robotic emissaries to 1239 00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:57,359 explore the solar system 1240 00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,800 and now 1241 00:48:02,309 --> 00:48:00,400 in low orbit 1242 00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:02,319 private companies are 1243 00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:05,920 also deploying robotic systems of quite 1244 00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:07,839 an advanced uh nature so i would 1245 00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:10,000 envision 1246 00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:12,079 human activities 1247 00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:13,839 on the moon and near the moon being 1248 00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:15,200 substantially 1249 00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:16,880 uh enabled 1250 00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:19,680 made more productive and made much safer 1251 00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:22,240 due to the presence of robotics uh and 1252 00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:23,839 other autonomous systems that could 1253 00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:26,079 operate together with our men and women 1254 00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:27,839 that would uh that would be there uh 1255 00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:30,800 representing our country thank you 1256 00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:32,160 robert if i could just add a 1257 00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,200 complimentary uh point to uh to david's 1258 00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:37,119 we see the opportunity for robotics in 1259 00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,200 space and collaboration between humans 1260 00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:40,880 and robots is an important technology 1261 00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:42,720 step it does come in the form of 1262 00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:45,359 vehicles uh another another example 1263 00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,720 being the x-37b uh the phantom express 1264 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,200 rapid launch capabilities we also see a 1265 00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:53,440 future with automation and robotics in 1266 00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:55,839 space in areas like space manufacturing 1267 00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:57,760 and we see the opportunity for zero 1268 00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:00,079 gravity low gravity manufacturing as 1269 00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,280 being a viable commercial practice in 1270 00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,119 space at some point that could either be 1271 00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:07,520 in low earth orbit or lunar 1272 00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:09,680 and uh as we're doing on earth with 1273 00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:12,079 combinations of of humans and robots 1274 00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,240 working in our factories robotic 1275 00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:16,559 application to space manufacturing 1276 00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:17,839 i think is another leading edge 1277 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:19,760 technology area it's an important place 1278 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,760 for america to lead 1279 00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:23,520 great 1280 00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:25,040 thank you 1281 00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:27,200 anyone else have a comment in response 1282 00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:28,400 in addition 1283 00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:29,200 great 1284 00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:31,440 good um last question on this panel 1285 00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:33,040 we'll go to uh the deputy secretary of 1286 00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:34,559 defense paul shanahan 1287 00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:37,440 hey good afternoon or yes good morning 1288 00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:39,839 you know um one of the the themes that 1289 00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:41,839 uh each of you mentioned in your remarks 1290 00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:42,800 was 1291 00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,599 stable consistent funding 1292 00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:48,000 and you know the question is as you look 1293 00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:50,400 across the three different domains 1294 00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,760 civil commercial military 1295 00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:55,920 what's the synergy we should try to 1296 00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,760 exploit how do you think about really 1297 00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:00,240 leveraging some of those common missions 1298 00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:07,109 yeah well first of all 1299 00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:10,079 i think your point of of matching up and 1300 00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,599 uh and creating synergy across 1301 00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:13,440 commercial and defense sectors is very 1302 00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,960 important it's important to the talent 1303 00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:16,640 base it's important to the techniques 1304 00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:18,000 and processes 1305 00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,400 and frankly uh that combination can help 1306 00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,240 create some stability in funding and 1307 00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,400 programmatic profiles 1308 00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:26,160 i think it's also important that from a 1309 00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,760 policy standpoint if we look at the 1310 00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:29,920 national budget not only the defense 1311 00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:32,160 budget but all of the elements that fuel 1312 00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:33,520 innovation 1313 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:36,079 year to year stability and alternatives 1314 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:38,240 to the budget cap 1315 00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:39,760 approach that we have in place today 1316 00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:42,720 sequestration we need an alternative 1317 00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,800 that's good for the u.s government it's 1318 00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,480 good for the economy it's good for 1319 00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:48,319 industry so we can do long-term planning 1320 00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,559 together without that long-term view and 1321 00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,400 long-term stability and funding it's 1322 00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:54,800 difficult to build a supply chain it's 1323 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:56,720 difficult to make the investments that 1324 00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:59,760 create long-term space infrastructure 1325 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,119 i think that's one of the most important 1326 00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,200 things we can do as a country 1327 00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:05,280 i would add to that to your point there 1328 00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,119 is complementary uh when you take the 1329 00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:11,520 national security activities that we do 1330 00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:13,440 they do flow over into commercial 1331 00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:15,280 opportunities and civil opportunities as 1332 00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:17,200 well so the money that we're spending 1333 00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:18,640 the investments that we're making as a 1334 00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:20,880 nation on national security or on our 1335 00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:23,440 civil space programs it's complementary 1336 00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:25,599 across and we can get the full bang for 1337 00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:27,680 the buck but to dennis's point we have 1338 00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:29,920 been faced with a very challenging 1339 00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,480 budget environment in the space arena as 1340 00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:34,319 well as in other areas of our government 1341 00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:36,800 and so that is a message to you as a 1342 00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,800 space council that we really do need to 1343 00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:40,240 make sure that we have stable funding 1344 00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,240 that we are that we have aspirational 1345 00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:44,079 programs that we're investing in so that 1346 00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:45,440 we can continue 1347 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:53,030 very good 1348 00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:55,280 david anything thank you 1349 00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:56,240 um 1350 00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:58,000 uh well if there's no other questions 1351 00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:59,839 from the panel 1352 00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:01,839 uh we'll allow this very distinguished 1353 00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:05,040 panel to um 1354 00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,359 step away but i hope everyone in 1355 00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:09,760 attendance will join me in thanking 1356 00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:11,280 marilyn houston david mullenberg and 1357 00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:13,280 david thompson for just outstanding 1358 00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:14,480 presentations 1359 00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:27,430 as our next panel begins to make their 1360 00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,960 way i would uh 1361 00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:30,480 call everyone 1362 00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:32,319 on the space council's attention to your 1363 00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,000 packets today there's a recommendation 1364 00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:36,240 to the president for a new policy 1365 00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:38,800 on deep space human exploration meets 1366 00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:40,480 the president's vision for america to 1367 00:52:44,829 --> 00:52:42,400 lead in space again 1368 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,839 the recommendation is the national space 1369 00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,040 council policy 1370 00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:49,119 be amended 1371 00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:51,920 as is transcribed there that we shall 1372 00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:54,079 lead in innovative and sustainable 1373 00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,760 program of exploration with commercial 1374 00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,000 international partners to enable human 1375 00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,800 expansion across the solar system 1376 00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:02,240 to bring new orleans knowledge and 1377 00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:03,680 opportunities beginning with missions 1378 00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:05,359 beyond low earth orbit the united states 1379 00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:06,720 will lead and return humans to the moon 1380 00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:08,800 for long-term exploration followed by 1381 00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:10,480 human missions to mars and 1382 00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,480 other destinations unless anyone on the 1383 00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:14,400 council has an objection 1384 00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:15,920 i would direct the executive secretary 1385 00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,680 of the council to prepare a decision 1386 00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:19,280 memo to the president 1387 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:21,040 with this recommendation 1388 00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:25,589 hearing none 1389 00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:28,000 so moved 1390 00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:29,920 with that uh secretary ross do you have 1391 00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:33,040 a comment no sir i agree with it good 1392 00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,040 thank you thank you 1393 00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,440 saw your light on there wilbur i'm 1394 00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:39,200 always ready to recognize you 1395 00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,720 um 1396 00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:42,480 with that let me uh let me turn to the 1397 00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:44,800 acting administrator uh robert lighthood 1398 00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:47,359 you've got a big job ahead of you um 1399 00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:49,119 council's going to need the whole team 1400 00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:50,160 at nasa 1401 00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:51,520 to work with the office management and 1402 00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:52,880 budget to provide the president with a 1403 00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:55,680 recommended plan to fulfill that policy 1404 00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:57,760 we'll need you and your team at nasa 1405 00:54:07,510 --> 00:53:59,040 uh 1406 00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:07,520 reinforces what we heard today 1407 00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:10,400 about the importance of 1408 00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:13,119 of urgency but also a sustainable 1409 00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:14,400 commitment of the united states to 1410 00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:16,880 consistent presence in space so with 1411 00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:18,960 that uh welcome your comments yeah thank 1412 00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:20,640 you mr vice president i think you know 1413 00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:23,280 as we sit here today mark vande high and 1414 00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,760 randy bresnik are doing a spacewalk at 1415 00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:27,040 the international space station so 1416 00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:28,800 they're outside the station above us 200 1417 00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:31,520 some odd miles above us today 1418 00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:33,839 and i am confident and excited about the 1419 00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:35,680 opportunity to bring a plan back to the 1420 00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:36,720 president 1421 00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,799 that allows future astronauts like that 1422 00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,480 to do the same kind of work further and 1423 00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:42,240 further into space um so it's an 1424 00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:43,680 exciting time for us a good opportunity 1425 00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,960 for us to to do this and i look forward 1426 00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:46,559 to working with the council omb 1427 00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:49,520 um as we go forward so we're ready to do 1428 00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:51,280 it great 1429 00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,359 thanks robert thanks for your leadership 1430 00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:55,280 as our acting administrator 1431 00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:58,559 at nasa and uh uh thank you all 1432 00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:00,319 uh we're going to begin to turn our 1433 00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:02,000 attention to the next panel this panel 1434 00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,520 is focused on the entrepreneurial side 1435 00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:04,880 of space which commonly called 1436 00:55:09,309 --> 00:55:07,200 commercial space 1437 00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:09,319 before i do that i did want to recognize 1438 00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,520 a couple of folks who are in the 1439 00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,960 audience today as we talk about a 1440 00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:14,559 sustainable commitment to space i don't 1441 00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:15,920 want to fail to recognize members of 1442 00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:17,040 congress 1443 00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:18,480 who are present with us today we're 1444 00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,319 grateful for their presence congressman 1445 00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:22,319 dana robacher congressman 1446 00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:24,640 steve palazzo and congressman jim 1447 00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,559 bridenstine is with us today would you 1448 00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:28,640 all join me in welcoming their presence 1449 00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:38,630 um also let me uh 1450 00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:40,640 point a personal privilege to people 1451 00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:43,599 that have been great champions of 1452 00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:46,160 of uh american leadership in space 1453 00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:47,359 throughout their long and storied 1454 00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,480 careers 1455 00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,920 the former chairman of the house science 1456 00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:51,440 committee bob walker is here and the 1457 00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:53,119 former speaker of the house newt 1458 00:56:03,030 --> 00:55:55,440 gingrich is with us today thank you both 1459 00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,510 that is our next panel steps uh to the 1460 00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:07,599 stage the panelists before us represent 1461 00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:10,079 uh some new and exciting companies that 1462 00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:11,200 are pushing the bounds of what we 1463 00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:12,640 thought was possible 1464 00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:14,559 even shaking things up a little bit in 1465 00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:16,960 aerospace markets globally 1466 00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:18,640 to say the least 1467 00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,960 our first panelists will be ms gwynne 1468 00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:23,040 shotwell the president of spacex our 1469 00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,040 second panelist will be mr bob smith the 1470 00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:28,079 ceo of blue origin our final pass 1471 00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:29,280 panelists 1472 00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:30,720 will be fati 1473 00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:33,599 osman ceo of sierra nevada 1474 00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:37,359 corporation before we recognize um 1475 00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:39,040 ms shotwell would you join me in 1476 00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,960 welcoming this panel 1477 00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:42,559 back to the national space council thank 1478 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:55,750 miss shot well you're recognized 1479 00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:58,789 a technologist here mr vice president 1480 00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:00,480 and distinguished members of the council 1481 00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,240 i'm honored to be here today in this 1482 00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:04,640 extraordinary venue to represent more 1483 00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,359 than 6 000 men and women of spacex who 1484 00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:10,559 work tirelessly each day to provide nasa 1485 00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,640 the department of defense and our 1486 00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,240 commercial customers with critical 1487 00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,079 launches to space 1488 00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:18,240 we are driven by a deep sense of mission 1489 00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:20,480 to revolutionize space technologies and 1490 00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:23,599 to help this nation in the the world 1491 00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:25,359 to help this nation and the world become 1492 00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:26,640 truly space 1493 00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:31,760 now is the time for swift and bold 1494 00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,480 action a permanent presence on the moon 1495 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,240 and american boots on the surface of 1496 00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,400 mars are not impossible and they are not 1497 00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:40,880 long-term goals we can achieve rapid 1498 00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,280 progress if we undertake concerted 1499 00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:45,359 efforts that optimize america's greatest 1500 00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:48,319 strengths ingenuity innovation and 1501 00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:50,240 entrepreneurialism 1502 00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:52,480 america is out innovating the rest of 1503 00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:54,720 the world in space launch so far this 1504 00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:57,119 year spacex has successfully conducted 1505 00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,480 13 launches more than any other nation 1506 00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,400 and we have also repeatedly demonstrated 1507 00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,640 the ability to re-fly previously flown 1508 00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:06,720 rockets for commercial customers we have 1509 00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:08,240 another one of those missions upcoming 1510 00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,440 in a week 1511 00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:11,359 this is a market commercial space launch 1512 00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:13,119 that the united states used to dominate 1513 00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,240 in the 90s we lost it in the 2000s and 1514 00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:18,640 we have been we are bringing that back 1515 00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:20,960 uh to the united states 1516 00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:23,040 along with the thousands of jobs that 1517 00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:28,950 spacex is bringing this critical market 1518 00:58:32,230 --> 00:58:30,000 back 1519 00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:32,240 and we are pleased to be doing so 1520 00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:35,040 also as recently announced by my boss mr 1521 00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:38,240 elon musk the ceo of spacex we also plan 1522 00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,720 to move forward rapidly with a program a 1523 00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:42,480 commercial program 1524 00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,480 for an american rocket and a spaceship 1525 00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:46,240 capable of carrying large numbers of 1526 00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:47,920 humans to mars 1527 00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:50,319 as well as the surface of the moon 1528 00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:51,680 though i sit on the commercial space 1529 00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:54,000 panel today and as i've mentioned we are 1530 00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,240 a key player both in the civil and the 1531 00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:58,720 national security space markets earlier 1532 00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:00,400 this year we carried the national 1533 00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,559 reconnaissance office l-76 mission to 1534 00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,880 orbit last month we successfully 1535 00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:07,200 launched the air force's x-37b into 1536 00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:08,079 orbit 1537 00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:10,160 next year we will have the profound 1538 00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:11,359 honor 1539 00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:14,160 of carrying u.s astronauts into space on 1540 00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:15,920 an american rocket for the first time 1541 00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:18,079 since 2011. 1542 00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:20,720 new rockets spacecraft and plans for 1543 00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:23,920 space commerce around in short there is 1544 00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:25,839 a renaissance underway right now in 1545 00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,880 space 1546 00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:28,720 against this background we urge the 1547 00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:30,799 council to undertake a unified effort 1548 00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:33,280 across the federal space enterprise you 1549 00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,440 have the opportunity to help accelerate 1550 00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:37,920 low earth orbit and deep space efforts 1551 00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:40,079 by employing public-private partnerships 1552 00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,640 to yield speedy and efficient results 1553 00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:44,720 and by implementing meaningful 1554 00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:46,880 regulatory reforms 1555 00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,720 overall the council can work to alter 1556 00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:50,559 and improve procurement agility and 1557 00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,720 flexibility so that the government can 1558 00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:54,720 behave more like a commercial buyer 1559 00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:56,160 where applicable 1560 00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:57,839 if we want to achieve rapid progress in 1561 01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:59,520 space the us government must remove 1562 01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:01,440 bureaucratic practices that run counter 1563 01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:04,480 to innovation and and speed we urge the 1564 01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:06,240 council to look back to the nasa 1565 01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:07,680 commercial orbital transportation 1566 01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:10,240 services program or cots for important 1567 01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,160 lessons learned about the effectiveness 1568 01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:14,400 of public-private partnerships and how 1569 01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:15,839 to carry them out 1570 01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,480 the firm fixed price pay-for-performance 1571 01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:20,799 competitive principles embodied in the 1572 01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:24,000 cots programs allowed nasa to rapidly 1573 01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:26,960 yield two new spacecraft and two new 1574 01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:29,359 rockets capable of carrying cargo to the 1575 01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:31,359 international space station 1576 01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,559 these lessons should be applied to 1577 01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:34,720 mayor's america's space program beyond 1578 01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:36,640 low earth orbit including a new 1579 01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,799 competitive public-private partnership 1580 01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:40,559 model on the cots approach for deep 1581 01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,119 space exploration this would augment 1582 01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:45,520 budgets with private capital complement 1583 01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,119 existing technologies that are being 1584 01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:49,680 pursued and accelerate technologies for 1585 01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:51,839 new destinations in space 1586 01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,359 including deep space communications 1587 01:00:56,789 --> 01:00:55,280 networks and also landers on the moon 1588 01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,799 and mars 1589 01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:58,240 the council can also establish 1590 01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:59,520 directives that 1591 01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:01,520 achieve rapid government adoption of new 1592 01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:03,520 commercial capabilities like reusable 1593 01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:05,760 launch vehicles rapid and complete 1594 01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:07,920 reusability is the next great 1595 01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:09,920 advancement for space flight and will 1596 01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,400 fundamentally alter the economics and re 1597 01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:14,400 and access to space 1598 01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,000 finally the council could commit to 1599 01:01:20,309 --> 01:01:18,160 reforming modernizing and streamlining 1600 01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:20,319 federal regulations governing space 1601 01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,720 launch regulations written decades ago 1602 01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:24,960 must be updated to keep pace with the 1603 01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:27,280 new technologies and the high cadence of 1604 01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:29,440 launch from the united states if we want 1605 01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:31,200 a strong space launch industry here at 1606 01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:33,839 home mr vice president and members of 1607 01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:35,680 the council thank you so much for this 1608 01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:37,280 invitation and i look forward to your 1609 01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,870 uh thank you very much uh gwen great uh 1610 01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:44,480 great comments we appreciate it look 1611 01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:45,359 forward 1612 01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:48,160 uh to the dialogue that will follow 1613 01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:51,280 bob smith is ceo of blue origin and is 1614 01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,359 recognized and welcomed to the national 1615 01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:54,960 space council 1616 01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:57,119 thank you mr vice president members of 1617 01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:59,280 the national space council thank you for 1618 01:02:02,150 --> 01:02:01,200 the opportunity to speak before you 1619 01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,160 today 1620 01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:04,400 at blue origin our vision is to enable a 1621 01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:06,240 future where millions of people are 1622 01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:08,000 living and working in space 1623 01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:09,920 this vision was set forth by our founder 1624 01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,559 jeff bezos who as a five-year-old 1625 01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:14,640 watched neil armstrong and bless aldrin 1626 01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:16,559 walk on the moon 1627 01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:18,559 this event sparked his lifelong passion 1628 01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,599 for space 1629 01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:21,440 this passion is what all of us at blue 1630 01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:24,000 origin think about each and every day 1631 01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:25,839 i'm a child of the apollo era and saw 1632 01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:28,160 with my own eyes the immense progress we 1633 01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:29,280 made then 1634 01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,440 to accomplish things that were almost 1635 01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:33,119 unthinkable at the time 1636 01:02:36,710 --> 01:02:34,960 i am proud now to be part of leading 1637 01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:36,720 this organization forward 1638 01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:38,400 and representing the commercial space 1639 01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:40,720 industry's desire to work with the 1640 01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,559 government to see progress like this 1641 01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,880 once again in my lifetime 1642 01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:46,720 the traditional government-driven space 1643 01:02:52,710 --> 01:02:48,880 enterprise gave the u.s leadership in 1644 01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:52,720 space over the past 60 years 1645 01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:54,319 through the apollo program through the 1646 01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:56,160 space shuttle program the international 1647 01:03:02,069 --> 01:02:59,200 space station and our national security 1648 01:03:03,430 --> 01:03:02,079 capabilities which are unrivaled by any 1649 01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:03,440 other country 1650 01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:04,880 however we believe the future of the 1651 01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:06,880 united states leadership in space will 1652 01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:08,880 build on these civil and national 1653 01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:10,880 security accomplishments and they will 1654 01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:13,440 continue by driving economic activity 1655 01:03:17,349 --> 01:03:15,599 commercial innovation and human space 1656 01:03:19,589 --> 01:03:17,359 flight resulting in an economic 1657 01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:19,599 expansion into space on the way to 1658 01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:21,520 millions of people living and working in 1659 01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:22,720 space 1660 01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:24,880 the first step in making this happen is 1661 01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:26,240 lowering the cost 1662 01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,079 of access to space by building 1663 01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:30,559 operationally reusable launch systems 1664 01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:32,319 blue origin is working on this today 1665 01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:34,799 designing reusability in from the 1666 01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:36,400 beginning on all of our programs that 1667 01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:38,480 will take people and payloads to the 1668 01:03:42,549 --> 01:03:40,960 earth orbit the moon and beyond 1669 01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:42,559 we are investing significant private 1670 01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:44,319 capital in our programs that are making 1671 01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:46,400 great progress towards increasing access 1672 01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:47,520 to space 1673 01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,200 our new shepard vehicle 1674 01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:51,599 will take scientific payloads and people 1675 01:03:55,109 --> 01:03:53,280 into space where they will experience 1676 01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:55,119 weightlessness and 1677 01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:57,200 witness incredible views 1678 01:04:01,670 --> 01:03:59,520 new shepard is named after the first 1679 01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:01,680 american go to space alan shepard 1680 01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:03,440 and launches from our facility in west 1681 01:04:06,069 --> 01:04:04,480 texas 1682 01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:06,079 the next launch of new shepard will be 1683 01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:07,680 later this year 1684 01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,520 the advances in reusability that we have 1685 01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:11,280 developed with new shepard are making 1686 01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:12,880 their way into new glen 1687 01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:14,640 our orbital rocket that will launch from 1688 01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:17,280 historic launch complex 36 at cape 1689 01:04:21,349 --> 01:04:19,440 canaveral taking people and payloads to 1690 01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:21,359 low earth orbit and beyond 1691 01:04:25,349 --> 01:04:23,680 new glenn is named after the first 1692 01:04:27,829 --> 01:04:25,359 american to orbit the earth senator john 1693 01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:27,839 glenn our massive factory at the cape 1694 01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:29,920 where we build new glen is on track to 1695 01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:31,839 be completed by the end of the year 1696 01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:33,760 we've also invested in building our own 1697 01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:36,000 reusable engines to power our launch 1698 01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:37,920 vehicles and to benefit the great air 1699 01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:40,960 launch industry our be 3 engine which 1700 01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:42,720 launches new shepard to space is an 1701 01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:44,960 amazing advancement in engine technology 1702 01:04:50,549 --> 01:04:46,799 and has demonstrated remarkable throttle 1703 01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:50,559 ability and robustness of design 1704 01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:53,200 we will soon begin testing our be4 1705 01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:54,720 engine which will take new glenn to 1706 01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:56,559 space and is being developed in 1707 01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:57,680 partnership 1708 01:05:02,710 --> 01:04:59,760 with united launch alliance for the next 1709 01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:02,720 generation vehicle vulcan and will end 1710 01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:06,000 america's dependence on russian engines 1711 01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:07,119 this has been accomplished with 1712 01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:09,680 virtually all private money 1713 01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:12,160 the opportunity before you is to further 1714 01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:14,720 u.s leadership in space by ensuring that 1715 01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:16,079 the united states 1716 01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:18,480 drives the coming economic expansion in 1717 01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:21,359 space this can only be done through 1718 01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:23,280 public private partnerships 1719 01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:25,440 for example our new glenn launch vehicle 1720 01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:27,200 will be more capable than existing 1721 01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:29,359 launch vehicles flying today and can be 1722 01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:31,760 used not only for human space flight and 1723 01:05:36,549 --> 01:05:33,839 other commercial missions but also for 1724 01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:36,559 civil and national security payloads 1725 01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:38,319 therefore we are in early discussions 1726 01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:40,559 with the national security community and 1727 01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:43,200 nasa about how to certify new glenn for 1728 01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:44,400 their use 1729 01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:46,480 we also believe strongly that it is time 1730 01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:48,720 for america to return to the moon the 1731 01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:50,559 moon is a key step on the path to 1732 01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:52,160 long-term exploration of the solar 1733 01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:54,160 system and we have proposed the blue 1734 01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:56,960 moon lunar lander concept as a low-cost 1735 01:06:01,750 --> 01:05:59,200 cargo delivery system to enable nasa and 1736 01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:01,760 commercial activities on the moon blue 1737 01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:04,160 moon can be done within the next five 1738 01:06:09,109 --> 01:06:06,160 years and we are willing to invest 1739 01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:09,119 alongside nasa to make this happen 1740 01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:11,280 such public-private partnerships allow 1741 01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:13,440 the country to meet big objectives 1742 01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,559 rapidly 1743 01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:16,480 while also promoting more economic 1744 01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:18,960 development and u.s strategic leadership 1745 01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:20,079 in space 1746 01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:21,760 thank you for your time and i'm happy to 1747 01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:26,309 well thank you bob thank you for those 1748 01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:28,319 thoughtful comments i look forward to 1749 01:06:33,029 --> 01:06:30,640 our dialogue with the panel 1750 01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:33,039 mr fatih osman 1751 01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:35,039 of sierra nevada corporation is 1752 01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:40,710 good morning 1753 01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:42,400 i'd like to echo my colleagues in 1754 01:06:46,309 --> 01:06:43,920 thanking the vice president and the 1755 01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:46,319 council for the opportunity to address 1756 01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:47,359 you today 1757 01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:49,520 now is the time for bold action 1758 01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:51,680 i am fadi osman ceo of sierra nevada 1759 01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:54,960 corporation my wife erin osmond my real 1760 01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:57,839 boss who is also here sitting 1761 01:07:03,349 --> 01:06:58,640 is 1762 01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:03,359 sole owners 1763 01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:05,200 snc is a unique company we bring the 1764 01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:07,039 best of both worlds a reliable garment 1765 01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:09,200 contractor that challenges the status 1766 01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:11,839 quo with an entrepreneurial culture 1767 01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:14,079 erin and i are blessed to live the most 1768 01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:16,079 amazing american dream 1769 01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:17,920 we came to nevada from turkey as 1770 01:07:22,069 --> 01:07:20,480 graduate students in 1980s 1771 01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:22,079 and have been proud u.s citizens for 1772 01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:23,920 almost 30 years 1773 01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:25,359 we have established an innovative 1774 01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:28,079 business model we invest our own capital 1775 01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:29,920 and focus on agility speed and 1776 01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:32,720 affordability with that approach snc has 1777 01:07:36,309 --> 01:07:34,559 grown from 20 employees into a 1778 01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:36,319 multi-billion dollar business with over 1779 01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:38,799 3 000 people with facilities in 20 1780 01:07:42,789 --> 01:07:40,480 states 1781 01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:42,799 in addition to snc's core national 1782 01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:44,400 security business 1783 01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:46,480 we have 25 years of experience and 1784 01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:48,880 innovation in space from satellites to 1785 01:07:53,829 --> 01:07:51,200 rocket engines and more our products 1786 01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:53,839 have been part of 450 successful 1787 01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:55,359 missions to space 1788 01:07:59,589 --> 01:07:57,599 our dream chaser is the next generation 1789 01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,599 space shuttle technology 1790 01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:01,520 this multi-mission spacecraft has been 1791 01:08:05,270 --> 01:08:03,359 selected by nasa 1792 01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:05,280 to service the international space 1793 01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:07,680 station dreamchaser is the only 1794 01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:10,400 commercial low earth orbit reusable 1795 01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:12,400 lifting body vehicle 1796 01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:15,200 it can launch from many rockets it can 1797 01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:17,679 land on many commercial airports 1798 01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:19,279 it can do many missions including 1799 01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,799 international ones 1800 01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:22,319 like the one planned with the united 1801 01:08:25,829 --> 01:08:23,359 nations 1802 01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:25,839 giving 84 member countries affordable 1803 01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,239 access to space 1804 01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:30,480 the council is critical to driving a 1805 01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:32,960 unified strategy policy and vision to 1806 01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,799 lead in space i will encourage great 1807 01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:36,480 greater cooperation among the three 1808 01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:38,480 recognized space communities 1809 01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:40,799 civil commercial and national security 1810 01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:43,199 to leverage their combined resources for 1811 01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:45,359 commercial space we need to create an 1812 01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:47,279 environment that promotes investment 1813 01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:50,159 manages risk and creates opportunity 1814 01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:51,839 specifically i'll 1815 01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:53,600 ask the council to address the three 1816 01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:54,719 following 1817 01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:57,359 points first infrastructure 1818 01:09:01,510 --> 01:08:59,600 commercial space is booming 1819 01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:01,520 the u.s should lead the effort and 1820 01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:03,040 invest in the building essential 1821 01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,000 infrastructure the highways in space for 1822 01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:08,239 a strong space economy the right 1823 01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:10,239 policies and regulations can provide 1824 01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:12,719 oversight and accelerate capital to new 1825 01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:15,359 initiatives creating jobs and markets 1826 01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:17,040 with huge returns including new 1827 01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:19,120 scientific discoveries 1828 01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,199 second commercialization 1829 01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:23,040 the global commercial space market is 1830 01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:25,520 valued at over 335 billion dollars a 1831 01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:28,239 year the us has a unique opportunity to 1832 01:09:32,149 --> 01:09:30,480 establish a roadmap based on an open 1833 01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:32,159 architecture framework 1834 01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:33,600 that 1835 01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:35,839 fosters competition and affordability 1836 01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,120 this will provide an integrated 1837 01:09:41,829 --> 01:09:39,759 capability that can leverage 1838 01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:41,839 and service civil commercial and 1839 01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:43,920 national security 1840 01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:45,199 and international partners and 1841 01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:46,640 consortiums 1842 01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:48,560 incentives are critical as well to 1843 01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:50,640 stimulate the space economy and ensure 1844 01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:53,279 u.s global leadership for example like a 1845 01:09:57,510 --> 01:09:55,840 free trade zone a space economic zone 1846 01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:57,520 could be created at the international 1847 01:10:02,229 --> 01:09:58,800 space station 1848 01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:02,239 and aboard u.s flag space vehicles 1849 01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,239 third and final continuation of the 1850 01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:06,320 international space station the u.s 1851 01:10:10,550 --> 01:10:08,159 should make the decision now 1852 01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,560 to continue operating the iss through 1853 01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:12,800 the end of the next decade this was a 1854 01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:14,640 hard lesson learned when we retired the 1855 01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:16,880 space shuttle 1856 01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:19,440 the iss is considered to be a stepping 1857 01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:21,360 stone for exploration 1858 01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:23,600 and we need to preserve it to open new 1859 01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:26,239 doors into space and go to deep space 1860 01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:29,360 in closing let me address the future 1861 01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:32,000 this administration is focused on space 1862 01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:34,000 this will light a fire in our national 1863 01:10:39,189 --> 01:10:36,880 imagination and inspire our children 1864 01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:39,199 after all space is multi-generational 1865 01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:41,199 and a bridge to bring cultures and 1866 01:10:45,669 --> 01:10:42,840 worlds 1867 01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:45,679 together for aaron and me 1868 01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:49,520 snc for enemy our own mission statement 1869 01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:51,520 reflects this focus 1870 01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:54,640 dream innovate inspire and empower the 1871 01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:57,120 next generation to transform humanity 1872 01:11:02,229 --> 01:10:59,920 through technology and imagination 1873 01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:02,239 i want to thank president trump and vice 1874 01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:04,480 president pence for reinstituting the 1875 01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:06,480 national space council and reigniting 1876 01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:08,000 the dream 1877 01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:10,480 we need this kind of bold action and we 1878 01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:12,719 stand ready to help you bring speed and 1879 01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:14,320 agility space 1880 01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:15,600 thank you again and i look forward to 1881 01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:24,950 well thank you all 1882 01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:27,280 uh thank you all for your words more 1883 01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:29,520 importantly thank you for your uh 1884 01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:31,360 inspiring example 1885 01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:34,000 uh of american ingenuity and creativity 1886 01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:35,840 uh i know 1887 01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:38,159 we're all we're all moved and millions 1888 01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:40,719 of americans follow with great interest 1889 01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:42,880 uh of these companies and and all that 1890 01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:44,960 you've done and uh 1891 01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:48,000 we're honored to have you here 1892 01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:50,159 and uh let let me uh the chair will ask 1893 01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:52,840 a very quick question 1894 01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:56,880 um gwen you talked about regulatory uh 1895 01:12:01,990 --> 01:12:00,560 reform uh fati you talked about um 1896 01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:02,000 uh the kind of regulation that would 1897 01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:04,880 create infrastructure in space a space a 1898 01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:07,440 highway bob you reflected 1899 01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:09,520 on on the same 1900 01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:11,600 making sure that the u.s drives economic 1901 01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,880 expansion 1902 01:12:16,830 --> 01:12:14,560 in space can 1903 01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:16,840 anyone on the panel speak briefly to 1904 01:12:20,149 --> 01:12:18,560 [Music] 1905 01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:20,159 what 1906 01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:27,280 omb commerce transportation 1907 01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:29,360 in the area of regulatory reform and i 1908 01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:31,679 believe the testimony was that we we 1909 01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:33,360 have not updated 1910 01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:35,280 regulations with regard to space since 1911 01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:37,040 the days of apollo 1912 01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:40,560 and gwen since you raised the issue 1913 01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:42,000 can each of you speak to that and then 1914 01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:42,880 i'll go to the secretary of 1915 01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:44,320 transportation 1916 01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:46,000 we actually have a detailed white paper 1917 01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:48,480 with some recommended approaches but 1918 01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:50,960 just to give a kind of a very top level 1919 01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:53,600 um we are working well with the faa to 1920 01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:55,440 get our launches licensed however i 1921 01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:58,000 think it requires heroics uh when you 1922 01:13:01,510 --> 01:12:59,920 make any changes to those launch license 1923 01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:01,520 when you have to change a launch pad 1924 01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,560 from 40 to 39a or back to 40 you have to 1925 01:13:08,310 --> 01:13:06,719 basically apply for a new license so if 1926 01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:08,320 we could look at the 1927 01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:10,960 the cfr right now and really streamline 1928 01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:13,840 the licensing process to allow for a 1929 01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:16,000 wrap much more rapid cadence of launch 1930 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:17,920 as we're starting to see this share 1931 01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,760 and that will only continue to grow so 1932 01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:21,440 we need to streamline the process we 1933 01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:23,360 need to shorten the timelines 1934 01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:26,400 it takes six months then you reapply 90 1935 01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:29,360 days 30 days and then 15 days to file a 1936 01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:31,360 flight plan i think if the airline 1937 01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:33,600 industry had to follow such regulations 1938 01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:36,320 maybe they'd change faster um but 1939 01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:37,679 those kinds of things the regulations 1940 01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,880 are there but they definitely need to be 1941 01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:40,560 streamlined in order to facilitate the 1942 01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:42,880 very rapid cadence of launch 1943 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:51,510 a little technical problem yeah 1944 01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:54,229 there we go sorry about that so the 1945 01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:55,760 fundamental i had the same problem did 1946 01:13:59,750 --> 01:13:57,280 you all right thank you 1947 01:14:01,350 --> 01:13:59,760 well i would just echo what gwen largely 1948 01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:01,360 said but put a finer point on it it 1949 01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:04,400 really comes down to reusability 1950 01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:05,920 that is the difference when you have 1951 01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:08,480 expendable launch capability there are 1952 01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:10,159 existing frameworks by which to handle 1953 01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:12,239 that but once you get into reusability 1954 01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:13,840 now you're into a different regulatory 1955 01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,080 regime and so we actually now have 1956 01:14:20,229 --> 01:14:18,320 duplicative uh overlap between the 1957 01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:20,239 united states air force and what we also 1958 01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:22,239 see from the faa so this is a good 1959 01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,840 opportunity for actually to go change 1960 01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:25,600 that regulatory environment because 1961 01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:27,360 reusability will be the thing that 1962 01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:28,719 actually changes the economics of 1963 01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:30,640 getting to space and having millions of 1964 01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:35,030 in terms of your question for 1965 01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:36,960 infrastructure i think uh 1966 01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:38,560 i was excited when i heard about the 1967 01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:39,920 trillion dollar infrastructure 1968 01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:40,960 investment 1969 01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:42,400 that was promised 1970 01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:44,320 just a fraction of that could be 1971 01:14:47,590 --> 01:14:46,000 invested in space 1972 01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:47,600 as well as the earth i mean you build 1973 01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:49,760 roads bridges and 1974 01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:51,120 highways 1975 01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:52,159 but 1976 01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:54,320 you can envision to 1977 01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:56,560 have a toll-free road 1978 01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,640 highway in space that we allow other 1979 01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:00,239 people 1980 01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:03,040 many commercial companies creating jobs 1981 01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:05,920 going out there giving them access 1982 01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:08,080 lower the cost of access which our 1983 01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:10,159 colleagues are doing a great job in 1984 01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:13,520 terms of uh inexpensive rockets but uh 1985 01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:15,120 additional infrastructure investment if 1986 01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:16,640 it is made then eventually you can 1987 01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:17,840 charge at all 1988 01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:20,159 and it will be self-sustaining so i i 1989 01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:22,239 think there's a lot of job creative 1990 01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:24,080 creation potential here if we lean 1991 01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:26,719 forward and and lead and reusability 1992 01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:29,280 will be key to lower the access space 1993 01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:31,199 shuttle is the best example sitting here 1994 01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:32,800 like our dream chaser 1995 01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:35,040 has been used over and over and uh i 1996 01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:36,880 think that's eventually going to be like 1997 01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:39,120 airplanes airlines 1998 01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:41,520 carrying people back and forth 1999 01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:43,280 well thank you for that uh secretary of 2000 01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,080 transportation elena 2001 01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:48,400 hey gwen great to see you thank you bob 2002 01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:49,120 and 2003 01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:52,480 remarks as well 2004 01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:55,040 gwen it was so interesting to visit your 2005 01:15:59,590 --> 01:15:57,199 facilities out in los angeles 2006 01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:59,600 it was really like a visit to the future 2007 01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:00,719 you know one of the most interesting 2008 01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:02,800 potential applications of commercial 2009 01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:06,560 space is this idea of flying passengers 2010 01:16:12,550 --> 01:16:10,640 like to any city on earth in 30 minutes 2011 01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,560 that that sounds like something you know 2012 01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:14,480 that would completely obviously 2013 01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,159 revolutionize long distance 2014 01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,560 transportation so can you share with us 2015 01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:20,640 a little bit as to what the vision is 2016 01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:24,560 and how this new future would look 2017 01:16:30,149 --> 01:16:27,360 thank you madam secretary last week 2018 01:16:32,470 --> 01:16:30,159 elon announced uh or basically gave an 2019 01:16:33,830 --> 01:16:32,480 update on the big falcon rocket program 2020 01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:33,840 big falcon rocket and big falcon 2021 01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:36,080 spaceship that program was meant to 2022 01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:38,080 complement the existing launch vehicle 2023 01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:39,760 suite that we have which is falcon 9 2024 01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:41,760 which is flying regularly now falcon 2025 01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:43,199 heavy which will start flying very 2026 01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:46,719 shortly and then the the bfr system 2027 01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:48,400 complements it and gets us through the 2028 01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:50,400 full suite of national security space 2029 01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:53,600 launch it also enables much larger 2030 01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:55,920 passenger carrying vehicles the dragon 2031 01:16:59,669 --> 01:16:58,560 spacecraft which we will fly 2032 01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:59,679 shortly 2033 01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:01,040 for crew 2034 01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:03,040 can carry up to seven people for nasa 2035 01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:05,360 we're flying four people bfr is planned 2036 01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:07,520 to fly hundreds of people both to low 2037 01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:08,719 earth orbit 2038 01:17:14,229 --> 01:17:11,199 our ultimate destination is mars but 2039 01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:14,239 that system is being designed also to do 2040 01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:16,080 kind of earth hops and those are some of 2041 01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:18,000 the first tests that you'll actually see 2042 01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:25,350 others on the panel 2043 01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:27,920 to the overall theme 2044 01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:31,040 you had actually a contract from far 2045 01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:32,880 east country in terms of transporting 2046 01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:34,400 from 2047 01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:37,280 indonesia to puerto rico 2048 01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:39,520 we did a study several million dollars 2049 01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:41,440 and that's a great possibility it was 2050 01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:42,719 taking about 2051 01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:45,840 45 minutes a very short time it's 2052 01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:48,080 expensive right now but i think if you 2053 01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:49,679 look into the future it will be 2054 01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:51,840 affordable 2055 01:17:55,590 --> 01:17:52,719 uh 2056 01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:55,600 thank you madam secretary anything else 2057 01:18:08,060 --> 01:17:57,280 well good uh let me go to the secretary 2058 01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:18,630 [Music] 2059 01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:20,790 through noaa operates 2060 01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:28,000 satellites 11 for civil use 2061 01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:31,280 mostly weather and and earth mapping and 2062 01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:33,600 five for the air force 2063 01:18:38,149 --> 01:18:36,480 and we've had a lot of prop partnerships 2064 01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:38,159 with other countries and with some 2065 01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:41,520 private sector and i've been intrigued 2066 01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:44,480 that in low gravity and no gravity 2067 01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:47,040 environments materials take on different 2068 01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:50,000 properties from what they have here on 2069 01:18:55,750 --> 01:18:52,800 earth and i wonder is that an area that 2070 01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:55,760 you think is ripe for commercialization 2071 01:19:00,310 --> 01:18:57,360 or are there other 2072 01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:00,320 segments of space that are more ripe so 2073 01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:02,560 that we really can have public-private 2074 01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:05,280 partnerships in meaningful dollars 2075 01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,679 because so far the monies we've gotten 2076 01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:09,520 really haven't been big dollars in the 2077 01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:15,270 can i answer that 2078 01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:18,640 that's a very exciting area because 2079 01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:20,800 we have so many requests 2080 01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:22,880 as part of our commercialization of the 2081 01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:25,199 dream chaser program outside of nasa 2082 01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,920 from pharmaceutical companies and 2083 01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:29,840 building new materials in space growing 2084 01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,239 crystals that are not possible under 2085 01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:34,560 earth conditions but microgravity allows 2086 01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:36,400 you to do that so there's so many 2087 01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:38,159 possible industrial 2088 01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:40,320 potential including 3d printing in space 2089 01:19:43,590 --> 01:19:42,080 that can allow you to do other things 2090 01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:43,600 that you couldn't do 2091 01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:46,080 industrially on earth so it is a very 2092 01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:48,159 exciting area that it i believe it's 2093 01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:50,560 going to be a big economic stimulus 2094 01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:52,960 eventually 2095 01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:54,719 i would just add that if you look 2096 01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:56,159 broadly within the 2097 01:19:59,270 --> 01:19:57,600 what the commercial activities are going 2098 01:20:01,270 --> 01:19:59,280 to be 2099 01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:01,280 a continuation of what we're doing today 2100 01:20:04,310 --> 01:20:02,640 is very much what's going to happen in 2101 01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:04,320 the near term so we're going to have 2102 01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:06,239 observation satellites and communication 2103 01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:07,440 satellites that's obviously going to be 2104 01:20:12,149 --> 01:20:09,840 a key commercial customer but the next 2105 01:20:14,229 --> 01:20:12,159 one for blue origin is going to be space 2106 01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:14,239 tourism so within the next 18 months 2107 01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:15,440 we're going to be launching humans into 2108 01:20:18,950 --> 01:20:17,440 space and this won't be 2109 01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:18,960 astronauts people that we've been 2110 01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:20,639 trained and specialized within an area 2111 01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:21,760 but these are going to be everyday 2112 01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:24,320 citizens um so that that by itself is 2113 01:20:28,149 --> 01:20:26,480 going to open up new ways of actually 2114 01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:28,159 thinking about commerce into space was 2115 01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,400 going to be very exciting beyond that as 2116 01:20:34,629 --> 01:20:32,480 we reduce the overall 2117 01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:34,639 cost of getting to space many of those 2118 01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:37,280 things come to play such as space power 2119 01:20:40,950 --> 01:20:39,360 manufacturing in space and using a lot 2120 01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:40,960 of and exploiting a lot of the resources 2121 01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:43,280 that are actually in space today so i 2122 01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:45,199 think once we get to those 2123 01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:46,480 first three levels then we're going to 2124 01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:47,679 be able to actually go a little bit 2125 01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,520 further and faster in terms of actually 2126 01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:51,440 getting higher economic activity in that 2127 01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:56,790 i do believe strongly that once you put 2128 01:21:02,310 --> 01:20:58,400 people 2129 01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:02,320 orbit and beyond the space enterprise 2130 01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:04,000 will proliferate in ways that we can't 2131 01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:06,719 even imagine right now 2132 01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:08,560 very well so thank you mr secretary if 2133 01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:10,560 you have nothing else 2134 01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:16,790 just been shut off again 2135 01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:19,030 that that was my big set of questions 2136 01:21:23,590 --> 01:21:20,880 the other one though was 2137 01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:23,600 when we have international partnerships 2138 01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:25,760 how do you modulate it so that we make 2139 01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:29,040 sure we keep control and we keep our 2140 01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:31,520 leadership position as opposed to 2141 01:21:41,189 --> 01:21:38,550 secretary tillerson has a very robust 2142 01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:41,199 set of rules called itar which prevents 2143 01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:44,080 the proliferation of technology to 2144 01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:46,159 countries uh outside the united states 2145 01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:48,400 no no i didn't mean the export of 2146 01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:52,159 technology we have bis so i'm well aware 2147 01:21:58,950 --> 01:21:55,199 of the limits on that i was talking 2148 01:22:02,310 --> 01:21:58,960 about if somebody pays very small rent 2149 01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:02,320 to use a space on a space station 2150 01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:04,560 and develops a product how do we get 2151 01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:06,400 some benefit out of it rather than it 2152 01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:08,400 being the third party or the 2153 01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:15,270 well if i i can try to answer that 2154 01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:17,199 because we are right now in the process 2155 01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:18,960 of working with united nations as i 2156 01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:20,639 referred earlier they signed an 2157 01:22:26,629 --> 01:22:24,480 agreement with us to the mission in 2021 2158 01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:26,639 with 84 countries who cannot afford 2159 01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:28,560 access to space there are a lot of 2160 01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:30,400 universities and 2161 01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:32,800 experimentation lined up to to be 2162 01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:35,040 included in that mission everybody pays 2163 01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:37,840 a small part to be a part of that but we 2164 01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:38,719 are 2165 01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:41,520 managing 2166 01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:43,760 who can get on there what's going to be 2167 01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:45,760 the outcome ip management rights and 2168 01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:48,400 those are evolving but we have a 2169 01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:50,400 tangible example right now right around 2170 01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:52,080 the corner for that mission that's going 2171 01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:53,679 to be very interesting to prove that but 2172 01:22:57,110 --> 01:22:55,199 i am excited because it's the u.s 2173 01:22:58,870 --> 01:22:57,120 leadership it's our airplane 2174 01:23:00,870 --> 01:22:58,880 american space plane 2175 01:23:03,110 --> 01:23:00,880 taking these nations and experiments in 2176 01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:03,120 space so we will have 2177 01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:05,840 more say on this than if he left let 2178 01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:07,840 somebody else do like chinese set up a 2179 01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:09,600 space station free access and everybody 2180 01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:18,070 thank you thank you mr secretary um 2181 01:23:22,149 --> 01:23:20,080 recognize the secretary of state and 2182 01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:22,159 then a wrap up question from the 2183 01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:23,600 director 2184 01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:25,600 of omb before we move on to our final 2185 01:23:29,110 --> 01:23:27,600 panel and i will say gwen 2186 01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:29,120 that the secretary of state would 2187 01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:30,400 greatly welcome 2188 01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:38,310 30 minutes to destinations around the 2189 01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:40,320 world would be great mr secretary i'm 2190 01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:41,840 all in 2191 01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:44,080 uh kind of picking up on 2192 01:23:48,629 --> 01:23:46,080 several comments 2193 01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:48,639 around regulatory obstacles but i want 2194 01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:50,719 to go extend that a bit to international 2195 01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:52,080 space law 2196 01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:55,520 and how it 2197 01:23:59,830 --> 01:23:57,679 where it stands today how it develops to 2198 01:24:01,510 --> 01:23:59,840 accommodate how rapidly 2199 01:24:03,910 --> 01:24:01,520 the use of space 2200 01:24:05,990 --> 01:24:03,920 is changing from a commercial 2201 01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:06,000 perspective and 2202 01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:08,560 whether you are encountering obstacles 2203 01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:10,480 from other countries 2204 01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:12,880 in in this space 2205 01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:14,560 in this area of the development of 2206 01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:17,360 international space law and what how do 2207 01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:19,600 we need to be thinking about that from 2208 01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:22,480 our standpoint of diplomacy 2209 01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:24,480 foreign policy 2210 01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:26,480 because obviously we want to create the 2211 01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:30,080 conditions that allow our u.s commercial 2212 01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:32,480 entities to compete and to thrive 2213 01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:34,719 maintain that leadership position regain 2214 01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:36,960 that leadership position so 2215 01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:38,560 kind of pushing this regulatory 2216 01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:41,440 environment out in to now the space 2217 01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:44,480 environment are there areas of concern 2218 01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:46,159 you can identify are obstacles you're 2219 01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:47,440 encountering 2220 01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:48,880 that would be helpful for us to 2221 01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:57,030 i believe with the movement to go beyond 2222 01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:58,800 earth orbit 2223 01:25:03,350 --> 01:25:00,480 the faa is 2224 01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:03,360 undertaking or looking at ways of 2225 01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:06,000 regulating that activity and i wouldn't 2226 01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,719 say that we've had any um any issues yet 2227 01:25:11,910 --> 01:25:10,320 but know that there are that these 2228 01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:11,920 things are coming 2229 01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:13,280 and that we will have to have a 2230 01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:15,920 regulatory regime that does cover um 2231 01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:17,840 private missions to the moon private 2232 01:25:22,629 --> 01:25:20,320 missions to mars as well so my guess is 2233 01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:22,639 we are kind of just starting that 2234 01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:25,280 journey and we will be working hopefully 2235 01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:28,000 very closely to make sure that the 2236 01:25:32,229 --> 01:25:30,239 regulatory regime is there for us to do 2237 01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:32,239 work our good work in a very rapid 2238 01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:37,270 i would just add that 2239 01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:39,600 a regular review of what the export 2240 01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:41,440 regime is between department of commerce 2241 01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:43,440 department of state is always 2242 01:25:47,110 --> 01:25:45,360 a good thing to go do those tend to get 2243 01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:47,120 locked in for long periods of time as 2244 01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,679 technology advances getting that update 2245 01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,280 on a regular basis i think is very 2246 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:52,880 valuable allows us to actually 2247 01:25:56,709 --> 01:25:54,880 understand where that sharp line is 2248 01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:56,719 because at blue we all tell everyone to 2249 01:26:01,270 --> 01:25:59,040 take one big step away from that red 2250 01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:01,280 line but we want to make sure that we 2251 01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:02,960 actually are doing whatever we can do to 2252 01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:05,600 actually spur commerce second thing to 2253 01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:07,199 to your question is really around the 2254 01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:08,639 outer space treaty the outer space 2255 01:26:12,550 --> 01:26:10,639 treaty is i think a good framework that 2256 01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,560 we have today i think it supports what 2257 01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:14,400 we want to go do in the future i think 2258 01:26:17,270 --> 01:26:15,840 there are details that have to be worked 2259 01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:17,280 out on that but that's a discussion that 2260 01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:19,280 i think we can go on as we get closer to 2261 01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:20,719 some of those actually becoming an 2262 01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,600 impediment 2263 01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:25,760 i'll just add to that uh 2264 01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:28,000 one quick point that uh it goes back to 2265 01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,480 our leadership u.s leadership i think 2266 01:26:34,390 --> 01:26:32,159 right now for instance my company has 2267 01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:34,400 ten international agreements with esa 2268 01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:36,960 jax and everybody else to do this and 2269 01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:39,120 and a lot of them want to come here and 2270 01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:40,480 we want to come to the united states to 2271 01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:44,400 create jobs so to allow them 2272 01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:47,280 to be able to establish here and work 2273 01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:50,080 jointly together to go to outer space 2274 01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:51,679 and i will say that we will leverage 2275 01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:54,239 these agreements with esa and 2276 01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:56,400 canadian space agency and jaxa and other 2277 01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:57,199 ones 2278 01:27:01,990 --> 01:26:59,520 to be able to keep our leadership and 2279 01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:02,000 other countries will have to follow so 2280 01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:04,159 i think there is room for uh improvement 2281 01:27:10,149 --> 01:27:08,870 thank you mr secretary and uh director 2282 01:27:12,390 --> 01:27:10,159 of office management and budget mick 2283 01:27:14,709 --> 01:27:12,400 mulvaney real briefly and i want to stay 2284 01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:14,719 in the regulatory environment here for a 2285 01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:16,080 second which you folks may not be aware 2286 01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:17,520 of is that the vice president presided 2287 01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:19,760 over a deregulatory day just this week 2288 01:27:22,870 --> 01:27:21,120 so you've sort of come to the right 2289 01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:22,880 group 2290 01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:24,320 and i'm fascinated by some of the 2291 01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:26,639 stories already about how regs get in 2292 01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:28,000 your way i would encourage you maybe 2293 01:27:31,030 --> 01:27:29,360 this is more of a recommendation than a 2294 01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:31,040 question because a lot of good questions 2295 01:27:33,590 --> 01:27:32,560 have been asked is that if you folks 2296 01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:33,600 could please 2297 01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:35,040 the office of management budget no one 2298 01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:37,760 understands us which we kind of like um 2299 01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:39,840 one of the things we we have within omb 2300 01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,440 is the office of information regulatory 2301 01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:43,679 affairs so we touch just about every reg 2302 01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:45,840 or every d-reg effort within the 2303 01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:47,360 government we're also involved in 2304 01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:49,120 legislating regulatory change or 2305 01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:51,280 legislative change so a few folks could 2306 01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:54,400 be specifically identifying regs that 2307 01:27:59,110 --> 01:27:56,880 are impeding innovation and impeding 2308 01:28:00,790 --> 01:27:59,120 investment specifically identifying 2309 01:28:02,149 --> 01:28:00,800 changes in law keeping in mind there are 2310 01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:02,159 some things that we can do as an 2311 01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:04,080 administration without going to congress 2312 01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:04,960 but there are some things that we 2313 01:28:08,229 --> 01:28:06,800 absolutely can and should go to congress 2314 01:28:09,750 --> 01:28:08,239 to help 2315 01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:09,760 get get some assistance with so if you 2316 01:28:13,510 --> 01:28:11,600 could identify for us 2317 01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:13,520 specific examples as you've done today 2318 01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:15,360 on the difficulties of getting launch 2319 01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:16,800 permission difficulties getting flight 2320 01:28:20,470 --> 01:28:18,960 plans filed difficult duplication 2321 01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:20,480 between various federal agencies by the 2322 01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:22,000 way that's something we hear from a lot 2323 01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:23,679 of different folks who work with the 2324 01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:26,080 government um we we are actually in a 2325 01:28:30,709 --> 01:28:28,719 position to help you in a in a fairly 2326 01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:30,719 short order as far as government service 2327 01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:31,840 goes so thank you for doing this today i 2328 01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:34,080 don't have a question uh mr president 2329 01:28:37,590 --> 01:28:35,920 but i would encourage them to get the 2330 01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:37,600 office of management budget anything 2331 01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:39,679 they can on where they need help on 2332 01:28:44,070 --> 01:28:42,080 d-reg 2333 01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:44,080 uh well thank you thank you director and 2334 01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:46,080 uh we'll uh 2335 01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:49,199 uh reiterate uh the director's request 2336 01:28:52,629 --> 01:28:51,520 uh uh that you that you forward that 2337 01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,639 information 2338 01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:54,480 with that uh before we dismiss the panel 2339 01:28:58,420 --> 01:28:57,040 let me uh let me request secretary chow 2340 01:29:00,070 --> 01:28:58,430 secretary ross 2341 01:29:03,189 --> 01:29:00,080 [Music] 2342 01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:03,199 as well as director mulvaney 2343 01:29:06,790 --> 01:29:05,440 let's uh i we think uh 2344 01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:06,800 based on this panel and some of the 2345 01:29:12,709 --> 01:29:09,120 reflections it is a time for a full 2346 01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:12,719 review of our regulatory framework 2347 01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:15,520 for commercial space enterprise so would 2348 01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:17,679 would each of you work 2349 01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:19,040 with the executive secretary of the 2350 01:29:22,470 --> 01:29:20,480 council to pull together a plan to 2351 01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:22,480 present to the president the objective 2352 01:29:25,910 --> 01:29:24,639 would be to remove barriers american 2353 01:29:27,750 --> 01:29:25,920 innovation 2354 01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:27,760 by streamlining regulations reducing 2355 01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:29,920 bureaucratic hurdles uh 2356 01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:33,040 space companies uh elaine uh wilbur yes 2357 01:29:36,229 --> 01:29:34,560 of course you're recognized 2358 01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:36,239 good look forward to working with them 2359 01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:37,760 we've actually already asked since we've 2360 01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:39,840 been sitting here for the spacex white 2361 01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:41,760 paper on the d-reg so good that's 2362 01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:43,600 already started well will you get your 2363 01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:45,840 team working on that i think our our 2364 01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:47,600 objective is let's have something to 2365 01:30:02,790 --> 01:30:01,030 well think urgency so 2366 01:30:04,870 --> 01:30:02,800 uh i think we're gonna i think if we put 2367 01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:04,880 a 45-day window on that i think it would 2368 01:30:07,270 --> 01:30:06,000 meet 2369 01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:07,280 the chair's expectation of the 2370 01:30:10,390 --> 01:30:09,280 president's expectation so thank you 2371 01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:10,400 very much 2372 01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:12,880 uh so thank you mr secretary uh and uh 2373 01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:14,320 would everyone join me in thanking this 2374 01:30:28,070 --> 01:30:16,960 panel for their outstanding presentation 2375 01:30:32,149 --> 01:30:30,149 our final panel of the day will focus on 2376 01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:32,159 the national security aspects of the 2377 01:30:35,669 --> 01:30:33,040 space 2378 01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:35,679 enterprise 2379 01:30:39,910 --> 01:30:37,760 our first panelists will be dr michael 2380 01:30:41,590 --> 01:30:39,920 griffin former nasa administrator and 2381 01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:41,600 former deputy director for technology 2382 01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:43,600 and strategic defense initiative 2383 01:30:46,830 --> 01:30:46,000 office our second panelist is admiral 2384 01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:46,840 james 2385 01:30:51,830 --> 01:30:49,520 ellis a distinguished american as well 2386 01:30:53,669 --> 01:30:51,840 former head of the strategic command and 2387 01:30:55,430 --> 01:30:53,679 now fellow at the hoover institution our 2388 01:30:58,629 --> 01:30:55,440 final panelist is ms 2389 01:31:00,629 --> 01:30:58,639 pamela melroy a former shuttle commander 2390 01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:00,639 and deputy director of the tactical 2391 01:31:04,149 --> 01:31:02,639 technologies office 2392 01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:04,159 at darpa would everyone join me in 2393 01:31:08,230 --> 01:31:06,639 welcoming this extraordinary panel 2394 01:31:15,669 --> 01:31:08,240 to the national space council today 2395 01:31:18,470 --> 01:31:15,679 [Applause] 2396 01:31:20,149 --> 01:31:18,480 dr griffin you're recognized for opening 2397 01:31:21,510 --> 01:31:20,159 remarks and 2398 01:31:29,669 --> 01:31:21,520 welcome back to the national space 2399 01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:31,189 mr vice president members of the 2400 01:31:35,030 --> 01:31:32,960 national space council 2401 01:31:37,350 --> 01:31:35,040 executive secretary pace thank you for 2402 01:31:39,830 --> 01:31:37,360 inviting me to speak at the meeting and 2403 01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:39,840 to air my views in regard to national 2404 01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:43,199 security space priorities and concerns 2405 01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:45,520 there are many such concerns it is past 2406 01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:47,760 time that we begin to address them 2407 01:31:53,189 --> 01:31:50,480 with both policy and budget 2408 01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:53,199 in my remarks today i will address only 2409 01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:55,040 a few that i consider to be of the 2410 01:31:58,470 --> 01:31:57,360 highest priority 2411 01:32:01,189 --> 01:31:58,480 first 2412 01:32:02,229 --> 01:32:01,199 we need persistent timely 2413 01:32:07,030 --> 01:32:02,239 global 2414 01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:07,040 land sea air and space domain awareness 2415 01:32:11,189 --> 01:32:09,120 we lead the world still in our ability 2416 01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:11,199 to provide exquisite intelligence when 2417 01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:13,360 our focus must be on very specific 2418 01:32:16,470 --> 01:32:14,480 targets 2419 01:32:19,110 --> 01:32:16,480 but increasingly what is needed is less 2420 01:32:22,229 --> 01:32:19,120 exquisite but more timely comprehensive 2421 01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:22,239 and persistent domain awareness 2422 01:32:27,350 --> 01:32:24,800 this can only be done from space 2423 01:32:30,229 --> 01:32:27,360 also it must be recognized that space 2424 01:32:32,790 --> 01:32:30,239 itself is a neglected domain 2425 01:32:34,709 --> 01:32:32,800 to be both blunt and clear 2426 01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:34,719 the united states must know what is 2427 01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:37,920 being launched from where it originates 2428 01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:39,679 to where it is going 2429 01:32:43,910 --> 01:32:41,920 what are its characteristics 2430 01:32:45,270 --> 01:32:43,920 what are its likely purposes 2431 01:32:46,470 --> 01:32:45,280 everywhere 2432 01:32:49,030 --> 01:32:46,480 all the time 2433 01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:49,040 to a level of accuracy sufficient for 2434 01:32:54,149 --> 01:32:51,280 targeting and fire control should that 2435 01:32:55,189 --> 01:32:54,159 be required 2436 01:32:56,870 --> 01:32:55,199 second 2437 01:32:58,709 --> 01:32:56,880 our adversaries 2438 01:33:01,350 --> 01:32:58,719 well understand 2439 01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:01,360 that in today's world our space assets 2440 01:33:05,910 --> 01:33:03,360 are critical to the way in which we 2441 01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:05,920 fight and win wars 2442 01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:07,920 the technological advantage that they 2443 01:33:13,830 --> 01:33:11,360 confer is by itself a deterrent to many 2444 01:33:16,550 --> 01:33:13,840 adversarial actions 2445 01:33:19,270 --> 01:33:16,560 bad actors can be dissuaded if they know 2446 01:33:21,750 --> 01:33:19,280 that they are unlikely to prevail 2447 01:33:23,669 --> 01:33:21,760 thus our space infrastructure has been 2448 01:33:26,229 --> 01:33:23,679 is being and will continue to be 2449 01:33:28,149 --> 01:33:26,239 targeted by those who seek to alter the 2450 01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:28,159 global order while blunting our 2451 01:33:32,470 --> 01:33:30,400 opposition to that 2452 01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:32,480 our adversaries can already and are 2453 01:33:37,590 --> 01:33:34,480 increasing their ability to 2454 01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:37,600 project their power into space 2455 01:33:42,149 --> 01:33:39,840 while we must develop defenses against 2456 01:33:44,709 --> 01:33:42,159 such actions defense by itself will 2457 01:33:47,669 --> 01:33:44,719 always be insufficient 2458 01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:47,679 defense must succeed every time 2459 01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:51,360 the adversary must succeed only once 2460 01:33:56,229 --> 01:33:53,360 accordingly we must develop our own 2461 01:33:58,390 --> 01:33:56,239 capabilities to project power in space 2462 01:34:00,870 --> 01:33:58,400 we must be able to hold adversary space 2463 01:34:02,830 --> 01:34:00,880 capabilities at risk even as they seek 2464 01:34:05,990 --> 01:34:02,840 to do so to 2465 01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:06,000 ours third these new capabilities are 2466 01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:08,000 dependent upon our ability to launch 2467 01:34:13,510 --> 01:34:11,679 them in a reliable timely routine and 2468 01:34:15,350 --> 01:34:13,520 cost effective fashion 2469 01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:15,360 attributes which hardly describe the 2470 01:34:18,470 --> 01:34:17,040 present state of affairs in the space 2471 01:34:20,149 --> 01:34:18,480 launch industry 2472 01:34:22,709 --> 01:34:20,159 it is past time for the national 2473 01:34:24,470 --> 01:34:22,719 security space launch community to take 2474 01:34:25,990 --> 01:34:24,480 control of its requirements and 2475 01:34:28,149 --> 01:34:26,000 capabilities 2476 01:34:30,950 --> 01:34:28,159 and yes commercial providers can offer 2477 01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:30,960 some useful capability but at bottom 2478 01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:33,040 national security space launch bears the 2479 01:34:37,910 --> 01:34:35,920 same relationship to commercial launch 2480 01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:37,920 that military aircraft do to the air 2481 01:34:41,430 --> 01:34:39,600 transport industry 2482 01:34:43,109 --> 01:34:41,440 they share an industrial base but they 2483 01:34:45,189 --> 01:34:43,119 do not share an operational 2484 01:34:47,030 --> 01:34:45,199 infrastructure 2485 01:34:50,550 --> 01:34:47,040 i have been a champion for commercial 2486 01:34:51,990 --> 01:34:50,560 space launch throughout my career 2487 01:34:54,149 --> 01:34:52,000 parenthetically i am the first 2488 01:34:56,709 --> 01:34:54,159 government official ever to buy a 2489 01:35:00,390 --> 01:34:56,719 commercial space launch on purely arms 2490 01:35:02,470 --> 01:35:00,400 length commercial terms 2491 01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:02,480 but always have always done so in the 2492 01:35:08,149 --> 01:35:05,440 context of a carefully formulated risk 2493 01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:08,159 calculus if you agree with me that space 2494 01:35:11,910 --> 01:35:10,400 launches like submarines and aircraft 2495 01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:11,920 carriers a street 2496 01:35:16,790 --> 01:35:14,400 strategic asset for our nation 2497 01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:16,800 then we must also agree to treat it as 2498 01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:19,040 such 2499 01:35:23,350 --> 01:35:20,800 allow me to close by noting that the 2500 01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:23,360 concerns i have addressed by no means 2501 01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:25,600 constitute an exhaustive list they are 2502 01:35:29,590 --> 01:35:27,520 merely those that i consider to be of 2503 01:35:31,830 --> 01:35:29,600 the very highest priority 2504 01:35:34,229 --> 01:35:31,840 but inciting them or any other specific 2505 01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:34,239 issues we must not lose focus on what 2506 01:35:38,550 --> 01:35:35,920 should be the overriding goal of 2507 01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:38,560 national space policy 2508 01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:40,560 the united states has had a leading role 2509 01:35:44,790 --> 01:35:42,400 in world affairs 2510 01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:44,800 and together with our allies 2511 01:35:49,669 --> 01:35:47,280 has promised promoted and generally 2512 01:35:52,229 --> 01:35:49,679 enforced a stable rules-based world 2513 01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:52,239 order for over seven decades 2514 01:35:56,629 --> 01:35:54,560 this power and influence was realized 2515 01:35:58,229 --> 01:35:56,639 through the sacrifices of our world war 2516 01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:58,239 ii generation 2517 01:36:01,669 --> 01:35:59,760 maintained through more than four 2518 01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:01,679 decades of national resolve during the 2519 01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:03,360 cold war 2520 01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:05,440 and renewed in the wake of the 9 11 2521 01:36:09,430 --> 01:36:06,960 attacks 2522 01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:09,440 in today's world the continued exercise 2523 01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:11,280 of that leadership depends critically 2524 01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:14,080 upon maintaining and executing our 2525 01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:16,239 and maintaining and extending our 2526 01:36:19,510 --> 01:36:18,400 preeminence in space in all of its many 2527 01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:19,520 aspects 2528 01:36:24,550 --> 01:36:22,320 our adversaries understand that and are 2529 01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:24,560 actively working to prevent it 2530 01:36:28,390 --> 01:36:26,480 we must work together to ensure that 2531 01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:28,400 they do not succeed 2532 01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:32,709 thank you 2533 01:36:39,270 --> 01:36:36,480 uh the stirring words 2534 01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:39,280 admiral james ellis mr vice president 2535 01:36:42,390 --> 01:36:40,400 and distinguished members of the 2536 01:36:44,550 --> 01:36:42,400 national space council thank you for 2537 01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:44,560 allowing me to appear before you at this 2538 01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:46,800 your inaugural meeting 2539 01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:48,320 the national security of the united 2540 01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:51,600 states is inextricably linked to space 2541 01:36:56,629 --> 01:36:53,920 but the technological advances in an 2542 01:36:59,270 --> 01:36:56,639 increased national security reliance on 2543 01:37:01,030 --> 01:36:59,280 space systems by our joint forces 2544 01:37:03,590 --> 01:37:01,040 allies and partners 2545 01:37:05,030 --> 01:37:03,600 have created a superbly capable critical 2546 01:37:07,030 --> 01:37:05,040 infrastructure 2547 01:37:09,109 --> 01:37:07,040 in space that has not been matched by 2548 01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:09,119 coherent supporting protection 2549 01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:12,560 capabilities lost mitigation strategies 2550 01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:14,800 and clearly articulated national 2551 01:37:17,910 --> 01:37:16,239 policies 2552 01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:17,920 as you've noted mr vice president the 2553 01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:19,679 threats range from sophisticated direct 2554 01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:21,760 descent asap weapons to the 2555 01:37:25,510 --> 01:37:23,600 proliferation of low-tech jammers that 2556 01:37:28,229 --> 01:37:25,520 can disrupt satellite communication 2557 01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:28,239 links without touching the spacecraft 2558 01:37:32,229 --> 01:37:30,080 they include the electromagnetic pulse 2559 01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:32,239 impact of the detonation of a nuclear 2560 01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:34,800 weapon in space but also the potential 2561 01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:37,119 for cyber or terrorist attacks on the 2562 01:37:42,790 --> 01:37:40,080 satellite ground control systems i make 2563 01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:42,800 two points here first not all threats to 2564 01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:45,760 our space assets originate in space and 2565 01:37:49,990 --> 01:37:47,920 not all our defense mitigation and 2566 01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:50,000 deterrence efforts should be focused 2567 01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,040 there 2568 01:37:55,669 --> 01:37:53,040 second the ability to threaten our 2569 01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:55,679 national security space assets is not 2570 01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:58,159 solely resident in nation states 2571 01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,080 it is also increasingly available to 2572 01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:02,880 non-state actors and individuals 2573 01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:04,960 as with other of our national security 2574 01:38:08,709 --> 01:38:06,159 challenges 2575 01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:08,719 a few dragons have been replaced by a 2576 01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:10,880 hundred snakes 2577 01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:12,480 to capably function in this newly 2578 01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:14,400 contested environment we need enhanced 2579 01:38:18,629 --> 01:38:16,800 and focused space situational space 2580 01:38:21,270 --> 01:38:18,639 intelligence excuse me and space 2581 01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:21,280 situational awareness as my colleague dr 2582 01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:23,280 griffin has noted we also need 2583 01:38:28,709 --> 01:38:25,440 dramatically improved technical and 2584 01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:28,719 tactical capabilities for the warfighter 2585 01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:30,639 we need a coherent architecture to make 2586 01:38:35,990 --> 01:38:33,280 robustness and resilience specified and 2587 01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:36,000 quantified requirements in all elements 2588 01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:37,360 of our systems 2589 01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:39,520 and we need a system reconstitution and 2590 01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:43,679 mitigation capability that is truly 2591 01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:45,520 responsive 2592 01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:47,280 we must include commercial and allied 2593 01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:48,960 partners in these conversations and 2594 01:38:54,149 --> 01:38:51,679 appreciate that if added to all space 2595 01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:54,159 platforms even relatively simple 2596 01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:56,719 technologies such as that motion sensor 2597 01:39:01,350 --> 01:38:58,800 that turns on your garage light when 2598 01:39:03,990 --> 01:39:01,360 someone walks up your driveway can add 2599 01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:04,000 insight and understanding to a global 2600 01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:06,880 space neighborhood watch 2601 01:39:11,270 --> 01:39:08,960 we need better tools to analyze as a 2602 01:39:13,350 --> 01:39:11,280 complete system our space related 2603 01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:13,360 critical infrastructure so that we 2604 01:39:17,669 --> 01:39:16,400 understand where the need is most urgent 2605 01:39:20,709 --> 01:39:17,679 and finally 2606 01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:20,719 we simply must get it all done faster 2607 01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:22,800 because the threats are growing faster 2608 01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:26,560 than our ability to counter them 2609 01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:28,239 a friend of mine once told me that you 2610 01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:30,400 know you are really in a crisis when 2611 01:39:36,950 --> 01:39:33,440 they start waving the rules 2612 01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:36,960 in national security space we are there 2613 01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:39,440 and it's time to appropriately unleash 2614 01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:41,840 our world-class developmental 2615 01:39:49,109 --> 01:39:46,080 manufacturing and operational expertise 2616 01:39:51,350 --> 01:39:49,119 finally in space as in the cyber world 2617 01:39:54,629 --> 01:39:51,360 national security strategies from land 2618 01:39:56,550 --> 01:39:54,639 air and sea do not always translate 2619 01:39:59,510 --> 01:39:56,560 and classic concepts of kinetic 2620 01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:59,520 deterrence may not apply 2621 01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:01,280 a shared understanding of both what we 2622 01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:03,440 are trying to do and what are the limits 2623 01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:05,440 on which we are allowed to do 2624 01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:07,199 is essential 2625 01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:09,360 clear and unambiguous policy and 2626 01:40:14,470 --> 01:40:12,320 strategy guidance from all of you 2627 01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:14,480 will be vital to ensuring we achieve 2628 01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:17,040 unity of purpose and effectiveness of 2629 01:40:19,990 --> 01:40:18,239 outcome 2630 01:40:22,629 --> 01:40:20,000 that clarity is also critical to 2631 01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:22,639 reassuring our allies and deterring 2632 01:40:26,950 --> 01:40:24,719 potential adversaries 2633 01:40:28,629 --> 01:40:26,960 we must lead global efforts to shape 2634 01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:28,639 collective behavior 2635 01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:30,719 and be very clear in our declaratory 2636 01:40:34,629 --> 01:40:33,280 policies about what we stand for in 2637 01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:34,639 space 2638 01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:38,080 and what we will not stand for 2639 01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:40,080 we must not confuse effort with outcome 2640 01:40:44,709 --> 01:40:42,480 or technology with strategy 2641 01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:44,719 in space as on earth 2642 01:40:49,189 --> 01:40:47,600 tactical energy in a strategic vacuum 2643 01:40:51,270 --> 01:40:49,199 no pun intended 2644 01:40:53,430 --> 01:40:51,280 is a recipe for failure 2645 01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:53,440 and in preserving america's national 2646 01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:55,920 security space capabilities and that of 2647 01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:58,719 our partners and allies around the globe 2648 01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:01,280 failure is not an option 2649 01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:02,400 thank you and i look forward to your 2650 01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:09,189 uh thank you admiral for those uh 2651 01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:11,520 very strong remarks we look forward to 2652 01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:12,800 our 2653 01:41:18,149 --> 01:41:15,440 panels discussion momentarily 2654 01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:18,159 with that the chair recognizes 2655 01:41:23,109 --> 01:41:20,159 colonel pamela melroy 2656 01:41:26,310 --> 01:41:23,119 who has a distinguished career 2657 01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,320 as an air force test pilot but also 2658 01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:28,239 an astronaut 2659 01:41:29,590 --> 01:41:28,530 who 2660 01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:29,600 [Music] 2661 01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:32,480 piloted the discovery behind me 2662 01:41:36,709 --> 01:41:34,800 in 2000 and was the commander of 2663 01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:36,719 discovery's mission in 2664 01:41:43,189 --> 01:41:38,800 2007 i think that's worth a round of 2665 01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:47,669 for the applause is for discovery 2666 01:41:53,109 --> 01:41:50,709 thank you mr vice president good morning 2667 01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:53,119 mr vice president members of the 2668 01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:54,880 national space council thank you for 2669 01:42:00,229 --> 01:41:57,280 inviting me to speak to you today 2670 01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:00,239 i am deeply concerned about sustaining 2671 01:42:05,910 --> 01:42:03,520 the u.s ability to use our space assets 2672 01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:05,920 to ensure air naval and ground 2673 01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:09,040 superiority and to shore up our 2674 01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:12,320 diminishing space superiority 2675 01:42:17,669 --> 01:42:14,960 speed the tempo of decision and 2676 01:42:20,390 --> 01:42:17,679 information is the problem because our 2677 01:42:22,790 --> 01:42:20,400 adversaries have figured out how to move 2678 01:42:25,510 --> 01:42:22,800 inside our military decision loop and 2679 01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:25,520 our existing precision kill chain is 2680 01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:28,000 inadequate to address many new and 2681 01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:29,920 pressing threats 2682 01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:31,600 you're going to hear me echo several 2683 01:42:35,990 --> 01:42:34,000 comments made by dr griffin and admiral 2684 01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:36,000 ellis i'm going to do a little bit of a 2685 01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:38,080 dive into what i consider the two most 2686 01:42:43,109 --> 01:42:40,400 pressing issues 2687 01:42:45,830 --> 01:42:43,119 the first issue is the tempo of space 2688 01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:45,840 domain awareness knowing what's going on 2689 01:42:51,830 --> 01:42:49,199 in space real time rather than forensic 2690 01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:51,840 information days after the fact 2691 01:42:56,229 --> 01:42:53,600 currently the air force has about a 2692 01:42:58,470 --> 01:42:56,239 dozen dedicated exquisite sensors with 2693 01:43:00,310 --> 01:42:58,480 superb accuracy 2694 01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:00,320 they're scattered widely they can be 2695 01:43:04,790 --> 01:43:01,840 affected by weather 2696 01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:04,800 and can only take periodic snapshots of 2697 01:43:09,750 --> 01:43:06,800 objects in space 2698 01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:09,760 hours and even days go by without 2699 01:43:15,189 --> 01:43:12,639 updates to orbital locations 2700 01:43:18,390 --> 01:43:15,199 today there are emerging threats to our 2701 01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:18,400 spacecraft that can maneuver in minutes 2702 01:43:21,990 --> 01:43:19,840 and hours 2703 01:43:26,470 --> 01:43:22,000 the possibility of missing a dynamic 2704 01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:26,480 threat to our spacecraft is unacceptable 2705 01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:28,960 we have to have more sensors to get more 2706 01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:30,400 frequent updates 2707 01:43:34,950 --> 01:43:32,480 but these sensors don't have to be as 2708 01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:34,960 precise and as expensive as our current 2709 01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:36,080 sensors 2710 01:43:40,870 --> 01:43:38,400 the frequency of observations combined 2711 01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:40,880 with our current sensor data makes up 2712 01:43:45,030 --> 01:43:42,880 for the lack of precision 2713 01:43:47,669 --> 01:43:45,040 the proliferation of commercial space 2714 01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:47,679 surveillance sensors is a potential fit 2715 01:43:52,310 --> 01:43:49,760 for this need 2716 01:43:54,870 --> 01:43:52,320 the second area where increased tempo is 2717 01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:54,880 needed is tactical intelligence to 2718 01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:57,760 support the ability to find a target 2719 01:44:02,950 --> 01:44:00,400 track and engage it as well as to 2720 01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:02,960 perform battle damage assessment the 2721 01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:04,960 entire kill chain 2722 01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:07,440 in recent decades we've become expert at 2723 01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:09,920 using air assets to supply information 2724 01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:12,320 for our precision weapon systems 2725 01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:14,880 in the future we can't assume a 2726 01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:16,800 permissive operating environment for 2727 01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:18,560 those air assets 2728 01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,040 now we do have truly magnificent space 2729 01:44:26,229 --> 01:44:23,840 capability for strategic intelligence 2730 01:44:27,590 --> 01:44:26,239 critical for the planning awareness and 2731 01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:27,600 attribution 2732 01:44:31,109 --> 01:44:30,080 however this capability is spread very 2733 01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:31,119 thin 2734 01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:33,600 cannot be redirected in short tactical 2735 01:44:39,350 --> 01:44:37,760 time scales and may now be held at risk 2736 01:44:41,350 --> 01:44:39,360 additionally our command and control 2737 01:44:44,550 --> 01:44:41,360 structure isn't designed to absorb and 2738 01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:44,560 disseminate information quickly at large 2739 01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:46,800 geographic scales such as the pacific 2740 01:44:51,109 --> 01:44:49,360 region or for multiple concurrent 2741 01:44:54,149 --> 01:44:51,119 operations 2742 01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:54,159 enhancing our architecture with low-cost 2743 01:44:59,510 --> 01:44:56,639 small satellite constellations can 2744 01:45:01,270 --> 01:44:59,520 provide persistence and re-tasking on 2745 01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:01,280 short time scales 2746 01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:03,199 these constellations should be under the 2747 01:45:08,229 --> 01:45:05,600 direct control of the warfighter as 2748 01:45:09,910 --> 01:45:08,239 tactical intelligence assets 2749 01:45:13,189 --> 01:45:09,920 these constellations must have 2750 01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:13,199 collection algorithms onboard processing 2751 01:45:18,550 --> 01:45:15,199 and dissemination of information 2752 01:45:20,550 --> 01:45:18,560 directly to cockpits and ship bridges 2753 01:45:23,109 --> 01:45:20,560 without humans in the loop 2754 01:45:25,350 --> 01:45:23,119 enabling us to compress that kill chain 2755 01:45:26,629 --> 01:45:25,360 in a denied environment 2756 01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:26,639 thank you and i look forward to your 2757 01:45:36,470 --> 01:45:33,990 thank you very much colonel 2758 01:45:39,669 --> 01:45:36,480 and to all the members of the panel 2759 01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:39,679 uh before we get to members of uh the 2760 01:45:43,350 --> 01:45:41,280 national space council the chair would 2761 01:45:45,109 --> 01:45:43,360 just 2762 01:45:47,830 --> 01:45:45,119 pose a question given each of your 2763 01:45:49,270 --> 01:45:47,840 extraordinary background uh in in this 2764 01:45:51,189 --> 01:45:49,280 area 2765 01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:51,199 uh with regard to national security and 2766 01:46:01,189 --> 01:45:58,070 there's much talk it seems in the public 2767 01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:01,199 about not wanting to militarize 2768 01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:02,960 uh space 2769 01:46:06,709 --> 01:46:04,400 uh but 2770 01:46:07,750 --> 01:46:06,719 uh is is it 2771 01:46:10,149 --> 01:46:07,760 is it 2772 01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:10,159 accurate for the lay person to know that 2773 01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:13,520 that from the time sputnik went up we 2774 01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:15,199 to one degree or another have 2775 01:46:18,870 --> 01:46:16,880 militarized space 2776 01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:18,880 and that um 2777 01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:19,760 uh 2778 01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:21,760 the question for is whether we 2779 01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:23,360 weaponized 2780 01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:26,639 space at this point and 2781 01:46:41,030 --> 01:46:27,679 i 2782 01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:41,040 to space uh are 2783 01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:42,639 are our adversaries and potential 2784 01:46:48,070 --> 01:46:44,719 adversaries moving 2785 01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:48,080 toward weaponizing uh space uh in ways 2786 01:46:52,390 --> 01:46:50,400 that should inform our development of 2787 01:46:57,510 --> 01:46:52,400 national policy 2788 01:47:01,590 --> 01:46:59,669 i guess i'll start uh 2789 01:47:04,950 --> 01:47:01,600 the choice as to whether or not to 2790 01:47:06,790 --> 01:47:04,960 weaponize space is not one that we 2791 01:47:10,149 --> 01:47:06,800 can make 2792 01:47:12,390 --> 01:47:10,159 we can only decide to match 2793 01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:12,400 and raise our adversaries who are 2794 01:47:17,030 --> 01:47:15,119 already weaponizing space 2795 01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:17,040 i would add that space was first 2796 01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:19,280 weaponized during world war ii with the 2797 01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:21,280 german v2 2798 01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:29,030 that course is long out of the barn 2799 01:47:34,390 --> 01:47:31,440 our best chance for avoiding 2800 01:47:36,390 --> 01:47:34,400 future conflict in space 2801 01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:36,400 and frankly its collaterally related 2802 01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:38,880 conflicts on earth 2803 01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:42,480 is to be and to appear to be so strong 2804 01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:48,310 admiral 2805 01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:50,400 thank you mr vice president uh 2806 01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:52,080 i think as uh 2807 01:47:56,229 --> 01:47:54,320 as you know there are parallels historic 2808 01:47:58,229 --> 01:47:56,239 perhaps with the maritime domain and 2809 01:48:00,149 --> 01:47:58,239 virtually every arena in which the 2810 01:48:02,070 --> 01:48:00,159 united states and 2811 01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:02,080 before that nations around the world 2812 01:48:06,229 --> 01:48:04,000 operated and exerted influence has 2813 01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:06,239 progressed through a series that moved 2814 01:48:11,350 --> 01:48:08,960 from initially exploration and then 2815 01:48:14,149 --> 01:48:11,360 commerce and ultimately potential 2816 01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:14,159 conflict we hope as we all do to avoid 2817 01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:15,840 that conflict in space but as i 2818 01:48:19,270 --> 01:48:18,000 mentioned in my remarks it's entirely 2819 01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:19,280 appropriate that we appreciate the 2820 01:48:24,149 --> 01:48:21,679 difference between militarization and 2821 01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:24,159 weaponization we understand the reliance 2822 01:48:28,470 --> 01:48:26,080 as you've heard from my colleagues here 2823 01:48:31,030 --> 01:48:28,480 on the panel that our national security 2824 01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:31,040 architecture has on on those space 2825 01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:33,600 elements and that we move uh uh 2826 01:48:38,790 --> 01:48:36,000 effectively and uh and with forethought 2827 01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:38,800 to uh to ensure that we are preserving 2828 01:48:43,430 --> 01:48:41,440 those capabilities so uh we in the 2829 01:48:45,910 --> 01:48:43,440 military as as a retired guy i think 2830 01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:45,920 i'll still say that proudly 2831 01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:47,760 you have to deal with capabilities not 2832 01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:50,080 with intent and the capabilities are 2833 01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:52,320 well known uh their growth 2834 01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:53,840 as you've articulated in your opening 2835 01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:56,400 remarks is well documented we can't 2836 01:49:01,189 --> 01:48:58,560 predict the intent john f kennedy in 2837 01:49:02,070 --> 01:49:01,199 1962 said it's up to us to define 2838 01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:02,080 whether 2839 01:49:06,070 --> 01:49:04,239 the space domain becomes a an ocean of 2840 01:49:08,070 --> 01:49:06,080 peace as he called it or an area of 2841 01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:08,080 conflict we have that choice along with 2842 01:49:12,390 --> 01:49:10,400 our allies but deterrent concepts 2843 01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:12,400 understanding of what our policies are 2844 01:49:16,550 --> 01:49:14,480 and and what as i said in my remarks 2845 01:49:18,709 --> 01:49:16,560 what we what we stand for in space in 2846 01:49:20,870 --> 01:49:18,719 terms of norms and acceptable behaviors 2847 01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:20,880 and what we simply will not stand for is 2848 01:49:24,629 --> 01:49:22,320 going to be an essential element of 2849 01:49:26,470 --> 01:49:24,639 guaranteeing the continued access not 2850 01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:26,480 just for national security purposes but 2851 01:49:29,830 --> 01:49:27,920 as you've heard from the previous panels 2852 01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:29,840 for economic and uh and research 2853 01:49:33,589 --> 01:49:31,360 purposes as well 2854 01:49:36,629 --> 01:49:33,599 thank you colonel 2855 01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:36,639 i think uh dr griffin and admiral ellis 2856 01:49:40,629 --> 01:49:38,639 have said um 2857 01:49:42,070 --> 01:49:40,639 quite clearly what i totally agree with 2858 01:49:44,149 --> 01:49:42,080 which is that 2859 01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:44,159 this is not our choice it's it's already 2860 01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:45,119 happened 2861 01:49:49,030 --> 01:49:46,480 and 2862 01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:49,040 i do want to add one comment about the 2863 01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:51,280 critical nature of attribution 2864 01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:52,480 so 2865 01:49:55,669 --> 01:49:54,080 attribution is important for a lot of 2866 01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:55,679 different reasons 2867 01:49:59,589 --> 01:49:56,880 one is 2868 01:50:01,350 --> 01:49:59,599 just to be able to clearly state 2869 01:50:02,870 --> 01:50:01,360 when a bad actor has done something and 2870 01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:02,880 what they have done 2871 01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:05,040 but i think it's also important as 2872 01:50:10,950 --> 01:50:07,599 admiral ellis put it so eloquently what 2873 01:50:13,510 --> 01:50:10,960 we won't stand for and the attribution 2874 01:50:15,589 --> 01:50:13,520 has to be a critical element of that 2875 01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:15,599 i think thank you colonel i we have a 2876 01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:17,679 number of members of the council that 2877 01:50:25,510 --> 01:50:20,639 have uh questions but i appreciate your 2878 01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:26,229 and 2879 01:50:31,510 --> 01:50:29,920 clear the line between militarization 2880 01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:31,520 and weaponization 2881 01:50:37,910 --> 01:50:34,800 that uh but i i'm i'm uh 2882 01:50:39,990 --> 01:50:37,920 uh i find uh myself in strong agreement 2883 01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:40,000 with each of your echo about them 2884 01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:42,960 thereby the importance of deterrence 2885 01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:44,000 um 2886 01:50:48,629 --> 01:50:46,320 for keeping it an ocean of peace 2887 01:50:50,830 --> 01:50:48,639 uh the director of uh 2888 01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:50,840 national intelligence dan coats 2889 01:50:55,109 --> 01:50:53,679 recognized mr vice president thank you 2890 01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:55,119 particularly 2891 01:50:57,910 --> 01:50:56,560 of course i've paid attention to every 2892 01:50:59,750 --> 01:50:57,920 panel but 2893 01:51:01,830 --> 01:50:59,760 particularly keen attention to what was 2894 01:51:04,870 --> 01:51:01,840 just said with this panel 2895 01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:04,880 um the intelligence community 2896 01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:08,080 understands that um 2897 01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:10,880 our dominance in space relative to the 2898 01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:12,800 intelligence that we need 2899 01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:15,440 to keep america safe and informed 2900 01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:17,280 whether it's our fighters or whether 2901 01:51:22,790 --> 01:51:19,760 it's our national assets 2902 01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:22,800 is of critical importance 2903 01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:24,960 the dominance that we've had in space 2904 01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:30,070 at least 2905 01:51:33,510 --> 01:51:32,320 on the way to being equaled or perhaps 2906 01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:33,520 equaled 2907 01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:37,280 by adversaries who wish to do us harm 2908 01:51:43,830 --> 01:51:41,040 and we have to recognize that as 2909 01:51:46,310 --> 01:51:43,840 wonderful it is to hear about the 2910 01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:46,320 vision and the future for space and what 2911 01:51:49,189 --> 01:51:48,159 it can provide commercially what it can 2912 01:51:50,550 --> 01:51:49,199 provide 2913 01:51:52,550 --> 01:51:50,560 for 2914 01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:52,560 human exploration 2915 01:51:54,310 --> 01:51:53,520 uh 2916 01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:54,320 we 2917 01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:57,280 end up here sobered up by the fact that 2918 01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:58,960 like 2919 01:52:02,070 --> 01:52:00,400 other 2920 01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:02,080 innovations that have occurred the 2921 01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:04,400 internet and so forth and all the 2922 01:52:07,750 --> 01:52:06,239 all the blessings that it brings and all 2923 01:52:08,950 --> 01:52:07,760 the uh 2924 01:52:11,189 --> 01:52:08,960 uh 2925 01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:11,199 optimism it brings about the future it's 2926 01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:13,520 a double-edged sword uh there's a dark 2927 01:52:18,790 --> 01:52:14,400 side 2928 01:52:20,229 --> 01:52:18,800 forces us to be prepared 2929 01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:20,239 and so i think one of the important 2930 01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:22,080 things this council can do 2931 01:52:24,950 --> 01:52:23,520 is to ensure 2932 01:52:26,629 --> 01:52:24,960 that we 2933 01:52:30,390 --> 01:52:26,639 achieve the dominance and space 2934 01:52:31,669 --> 01:52:30,400 necessary for us to protect our people 2935 01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:31,679 to 2936 01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:37,360 keep our adversaries in a position where 2937 01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:39,679 they can't provide the dominance that 2938 01:52:45,750 --> 01:52:42,400 could do us do us wrong so 2939 01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:45,760 the candor uh and means in which uh this 2940 01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:48,480 uh part of the this panel has brought i 2941 01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:50,159 think is something that we need to focus 2942 01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:55,589 uh uh thank you director coats any any 2943 01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:57,199 comments from the panel following the 2944 01:53:01,510 --> 01:52:59,040 director's 2945 01:53:03,910 --> 01:53:01,520 remarks before i recognize 2946 01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:03,920 the acting director of homeland security 2947 01:53:07,910 --> 01:53:06,239 allow me another indiana 2948 01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:07,920 privilege 2949 01:53:12,870 --> 01:53:10,080 by recognizing an astronaut who's with 2950 01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:12,880 us today who spent 168 days in space 2951 01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:15,760 four missions 41 hours of space walks 2952 01:53:18,550 --> 01:53:16,480 and 2953 01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:18,560 he is he is the pride of his home state 2954 01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:20,719 of indiana astronaut david wolf is with 2955 01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:31,669 may not forgive me for that but uh i had 2956 01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:32,800 to do it 2957 01:53:37,589 --> 01:53:35,280 uh secretary dude thank you following 2958 01:53:40,310 --> 01:53:37,599 the time to get my microphone on before 2959 01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:40,320 you called on me i appreciate it um i i 2960 01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:41,840 definitely agree 2961 01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:43,440 that we need a 2962 01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:46,639 space strategy a a space security 2963 01:53:49,430 --> 01:53:47,840 strategy 2964 01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:49,440 and i've heard two different things 2965 01:53:54,310 --> 01:53:51,920 among the three panels one is critical 2966 01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:54,320 infrastructure in space so we have 2967 01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:57,280 commercial we have a national defense 2968 01:54:03,109 --> 01:54:00,560 and it would almost argue for 2969 01:54:04,149 --> 01:54:03,119 addressing some of the threats 2970 01:54:05,109 --> 01:54:04,159 as 2971 01:54:07,270 --> 01:54:05,119 they 2972 01:54:09,189 --> 01:54:07,280 as critical infrastructure align with 2973 01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:09,199 that so in the commercial sector we'd 2974 01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:11,280 have to make sure we have cyber security 2975 01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:13,440 and national defense the resilience you 2976 01:54:17,830 --> 01:54:15,440 talked about but then someone and i 2977 01:54:19,830 --> 01:54:17,840 believe it was you admirals mentioned 2978 01:54:22,470 --> 01:54:19,840 space as a crim as critical 2979 01:54:24,950 --> 01:54:22,480 infrastructure in in if we take your 2980 01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:24,960 recommendation for this strategy should 2981 01:54:30,390 --> 01:54:27,280 we be looking at space as a critical 2982 01:54:33,350 --> 01:54:30,400 infrastructure and all the security 2983 01:54:35,270 --> 01:54:33,360 needs we'd have it across the national 2984 01:54:37,990 --> 01:54:35,280 defense homeland security and commercial 2985 01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:38,000 do you have any recommendations 2986 01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:40,400 well i think you're exactly right uh 2987 01:54:44,470 --> 01:54:42,480 madam secretary the 2988 01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:44,480 the reality is that in space as in so 2989 01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:46,320 many other domains as 2990 01:54:50,950 --> 01:54:49,360 director coats knows well uh the line 2991 01:54:52,950 --> 01:54:50,960 between what is a national security 2992 01:54:55,750 --> 01:54:52,960 asset and what is a commercial asset has 2993 01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:55,760 long been blurred uh we rely very very 2994 01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:57,360 heavily in the in the military in 2995 01:55:01,510 --> 01:54:59,360 today's military on on commercial 2996 01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:01,520 entities and so uh that's the reason 2997 01:55:04,070 --> 01:55:02,800 that the definition critical 2998 01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:04,080 infrastructure writ large it's 2999 01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:05,760 inappropriate anymore to parse it out 3000 01:55:10,470 --> 01:55:08,320 very narrowly on military only or 3001 01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:10,480 national security only or intelligence 3002 01:55:14,709 --> 01:55:12,480 community only capabilities because we 3003 01:55:16,470 --> 01:55:14,719 are reliant on that that full range of 3004 01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:16,480 capabilities as residents space 3005 01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:18,000 including commercial in order to 3006 01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:19,920 accomplish that mission it's a complete 3007 01:55:24,310 --> 01:55:22,159 system now and needs to be addressed as 3008 01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:24,320 such and that's why i use the the 3009 01:55:28,310 --> 01:55:26,480 critical infrastructure term and think 3010 01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:28,320 that a strategy needs to be focused on 3011 01:55:33,510 --> 01:55:31,199 how we can effectively secure 3012 01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:33,520 that in its entirety not just predict 3013 01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:36,800 one element of it that may have a dod or 3014 01:55:46,229 --> 01:55:44,070 i'd like to echo that and there's a 3015 01:55:48,550 --> 01:55:46,239 a piece of this that it's a systems 3016 01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:48,560 engineering problem so you've heard from 3017 01:55:51,669 --> 01:55:50,159 three panels today 3018 01:55:54,629 --> 01:55:51,679 uh each 3019 01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:54,639 civil commercial and national security 3020 01:55:58,629 --> 01:55:56,400 space are all 3021 01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:58,639 inextricably linked together 3022 01:56:02,070 --> 01:56:01,040 particularly by this infrastructure but 3023 01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:02,080 also 3024 01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:04,080 by other technologies 3025 01:56:08,870 --> 01:56:06,719 and when you stop and think about the 3026 01:56:11,669 --> 01:56:08,880 number of atm transactions that go 3027 01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:11,679 through commercial geo satellites today 3028 01:56:15,189 --> 01:56:13,760 and ask yourself about critical 3029 01:56:17,830 --> 01:56:15,199 infrastructure 3030 01:56:19,510 --> 01:56:17,840 you begin to see that it's not just a 3031 01:56:22,709 --> 01:56:19,520 launch pad 3032 01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:22,719 or other types of capabilities that are 3033 01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:24,800 in that critical path 3034 01:56:27,990 --> 01:56:25,760 so 3035 01:56:29,910 --> 01:56:28,000 from from my perspective it's very very 3036 01:56:32,470 --> 01:56:29,920 important that the strategy 3037 01:56:35,109 --> 01:56:32,480 looks across all the domains and is an 3038 01:56:37,430 --> 01:56:35,119 integrated systems engineering approach 3039 01:56:39,910 --> 01:56:37,440 to what is the architecture of that 3040 01:56:41,990 --> 01:56:39,920 infrastructure that we need how will we 3041 01:56:44,870 --> 01:56:42,000 support it and if we make changes to 3042 01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:44,880 what we're doing today in one area how 3043 01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:51,830 i'd like to add a quick comment 3044 01:56:56,629 --> 01:56:53,440 to put some numbers on what admiral 3045 01:56:59,430 --> 01:56:56,639 ellis was talking about 80 percent of 3046 01:57:02,229 --> 01:56:59,440 our national security communications go 3047 01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:02,239 via commercial satellite routes 3048 01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:04,960 if we were to lose that infrastructure 3049 01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:07,360 our national security communications 3050 01:57:13,030 --> 01:57:11,280 would be greatly reduced in capability 3051 01:57:15,109 --> 01:57:13,040 when we talk about economic 3052 01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:15,119 infrastructure 3053 01:57:19,510 --> 01:57:17,040 i don't think the general public 3054 01:57:21,910 --> 01:57:19,520 realizes the extent to which 3055 01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:21,920 the global positioning system's timing 3056 01:57:25,589 --> 01:57:23,280 signal 3057 01:57:27,910 --> 01:57:25,599 is critical for these atm transactions 3058 01:57:29,109 --> 01:57:27,920 and and every other point of sale 3059 01:57:30,629 --> 01:57:29,119 transaction 3060 01:57:32,870 --> 01:57:30,639 conducted in the united states and 3061 01:57:35,510 --> 01:57:32,880 throughout most of the world 3062 01:57:37,750 --> 01:57:35,520 i ha i have to ask the question to what 3063 01:57:41,109 --> 01:57:37,760 extent do we believe 3064 01:57:43,189 --> 01:57:41,119 that we have defended ourselves if an 3065 01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:43,199 adversary can bring our economic system 3066 01:57:46,870 --> 01:57:44,960 near collapse 3067 01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:46,880 we may not lose a single piece of 3068 01:57:53,910 --> 01:57:48,080 hardware 3069 01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:56,470 uh uh thank the panel thank you uh madam 3070 01:58:01,510 --> 01:57:58,639 secretary uh secretary of state rex 3071 01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:03,510 uh you have 3072 01:58:06,149 --> 01:58:04,960 you've touched on a couple of areas that 3073 01:58:08,149 --> 01:58:06,159 i think are really important and i want 3074 01:58:10,070 --> 01:58:08,159 to go a little deeper on them 3075 01:58:14,229 --> 01:58:10,080 we know that our adversaries are 3076 01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:14,239 developing anti-satellite weapons 3077 01:58:18,310 --> 01:58:16,000 other capabilities to degrade our 3078 01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:18,320 capabilities both our military and our 3079 01:58:24,149 --> 01:58:21,040 security capabilities and impacts on 3080 01:58:26,629 --> 01:58:24,159 commercial capabilities as well 3081 01:58:28,390 --> 01:58:26,639 and as you've pointed out deterrence 3082 01:58:29,669 --> 01:58:28,400 you know having a strong posture has 3083 01:58:31,189 --> 01:58:29,679 always been 3084 01:58:33,750 --> 01:58:31,199 what has 3085 01:58:36,149 --> 01:58:33,760 been reliable in the past and much of 3086 01:58:37,270 --> 01:58:36,159 that is built with allies and partners 3087 01:58:39,030 --> 01:58:37,280 in the past 3088 01:58:41,669 --> 01:58:39,040 we have existing 3089 01:58:42,709 --> 01:58:41,679 structures of alliances today to what 3090 01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:42,719 extent 3091 01:58:45,910 --> 01:58:45,040 are they the proper platforms to build 3092 01:58:47,750 --> 01:58:45,920 out 3093 01:58:49,510 --> 01:58:47,760 these capabilities through allies and 3094 01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:49,520 partners whom also are developing 3095 01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:52,320 certain capabilities in space themselves 3096 01:58:56,790 --> 01:58:55,119 or is the nature of this threat 3097 01:58:57,910 --> 01:58:56,800 does it require 3098 01:59:00,709 --> 01:58:57,920 a different 3099 01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:00,719 platform or structure for building and 3100 01:59:05,030 --> 01:59:02,639 strengthening these approaches through 3101 01:59:07,430 --> 01:59:05,040 allies and partners and the the second 3102 01:59:09,910 --> 01:59:07,440 question i have gets to the conflict the 3103 01:59:11,589 --> 01:59:09,920 likelihood of conflict and and i think 3104 01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:11,599 this was touched on earlier as well we 3105 01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:12,960 have a lot of 3106 01:59:17,510 --> 01:59:14,880 we've practiced a lot 3107 01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:17,520 to deconflict maritime operations with 3108 01:59:22,229 --> 01:59:19,840 our adversaries to deconflict air 3109 01:59:24,229 --> 01:59:22,239 operations 3110 01:59:26,310 --> 01:59:24,239 we have not practiced and we do not have 3111 01:59:27,990 --> 01:59:26,320 the standards and norms to practice 3112 01:59:29,589 --> 01:59:28,000 deconfliction 3113 01:59:30,870 --> 01:59:29,599 in space 3114 01:59:33,270 --> 01:59:30,880 and 3115 01:59:35,830 --> 01:59:33,280 do you have ideas about the ways to 3116 01:59:37,350 --> 01:59:35,840 address that and what are the norms that 3117 01:59:39,669 --> 01:59:37,360 would be the basis 3118 01:59:41,350 --> 01:59:39,679 for beginning to engage in deconfliction 3119 01:59:43,189 --> 01:59:41,360 capabilities 3120 01:59:46,070 --> 01:59:43,199 uh as well so 3121 01:59:49,189 --> 01:59:46,080 two separate but not unrelated 3122 01:59:53,589 --> 01:59:51,669 well i'll be glad to take the first shot 3123 01:59:55,510 --> 01:59:53,599 first in in in 3124 01:59:57,270 --> 01:59:55,520 interest of brevity uh allies are 3125 01:59:58,950 --> 01:59:57,280 absolutely essential in this effort 3126 02:00:01,430 --> 01:59:58,960 going forward 3127 02:00:04,870 --> 02:00:01,440 if if anything even more so than the 3128 02:00:07,109 --> 02:00:04,880 atmospheric and the maritime domain 3129 02:00:09,189 --> 02:00:07,119 space is a true global commons and the 3130 02:00:11,510 --> 02:00:09,199 number of participants that are involved 3131 02:00:13,350 --> 02:00:11,520 actively in space with satellites and 3132 02:00:15,750 --> 02:00:13,360 space programs of their own is well over 3133 02:00:17,669 --> 02:00:15,760 a hundred now and so if we're talking 3134 02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:17,679 about coming together and collective 3135 02:00:22,149 --> 02:00:20,080 security it makes a great deal of sense 3136 02:00:24,390 --> 02:00:22,159 to uh to integrate those efforts and 3137 02:00:26,390 --> 02:00:24,400 have commonality when appropriate we 3138 02:00:27,589 --> 02:00:26,400 understand the challenges of technology 3139 02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:27,599 transfer that was talked about in 3140 02:00:31,510 --> 02:00:29,520 another panel but i do think the mutual 3141 02:00:33,830 --> 02:00:31,520 security elements of this are going to 3142 02:00:35,589 --> 02:00:33,840 be essential because just as dr griffin 3143 02:00:37,189 --> 02:00:35,599 indicated a lot of our communications go 3144 02:00:39,510 --> 02:00:37,199 through commercial satellites not all of 3145 02:00:41,669 --> 02:00:39,520 those commercial satellites we use are 3146 02:00:43,910 --> 02:00:41,679 us satellites and so i think there's a 3147 02:00:45,510 --> 02:00:43,920 there's a logical extension there with 3148 02:00:48,310 --> 02:00:45,520 regard to uh 3149 02:00:49,750 --> 02:00:48,320 to conflict and deconflict i think if i 3150 02:00:51,990 --> 02:00:49,760 might default back to the maritime 3151 02:00:54,310 --> 02:00:52,000 domain again over many centuries we had 3152 02:00:56,950 --> 02:00:54,320 an ability to to rub the rough edges off 3153 02:00:59,109 --> 02:00:56,960 these relationships and create 3154 02:01:01,189 --> 02:00:59,119 rules of the road in the maritime domain 3155 02:01:04,470 --> 02:01:01,199 and ultimately 3156 02:01:06,149 --> 02:01:04,480 acceptable behaviors even supranational 3157 02:01:07,830 --> 02:01:06,159 organizations such as the international 3158 02:01:09,189 --> 02:01:07,840 maritime organization and the 3159 02:01:11,189 --> 02:01:09,199 international civil aviation 3160 02:01:13,270 --> 02:01:11,199 organization were constructed and 3161 02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:13,280 ultimately uh follow on treaties and 3162 02:01:16,629 --> 02:01:14,880 relationships which of these are 3163 02:01:18,709 --> 02:01:16,639 applicable to space is something we need 3164 02:01:20,629 --> 02:01:18,719 to explore not all of them as i said 3165 02:01:22,950 --> 02:01:20,639 earlier may work but i think that's the 3166 02:01:24,790 --> 02:01:22,960 direction we need to go so that we can 3167 02:01:27,510 --> 02:01:24,800 help people understand and avoid 3168 02:01:29,589 --> 02:01:27,520 accidents and avoid miscalculation on 3169 02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:29,599 the part of on the part of allies it's 3170 02:01:33,830 --> 02:01:31,360 not that we have to tell people exactly 3171 02:01:35,830 --> 02:01:33,840 what we will do in every situation but 3172 02:01:37,990 --> 02:01:35,840 it's absolutely essential that that they 3173 02:01:40,229 --> 02:01:38,000 understand uh and we communicate through 3174 02:01:43,189 --> 02:01:40,239 whatever means not necessarily publicly 3175 02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:43,199 where our our our major concerns are so 3176 02:01:46,070 --> 02:01:44,320 that we uh 3177 02:01:49,189 --> 02:01:46,080 we don't uh stumble into uh 3178 02:01:55,030 --> 02:01:49,199 confrontation much less conflict uh on a 3179 02:01:59,510 --> 02:01:57,589 uh i think that 3180 02:02:01,669 --> 02:01:59,520 from an international perspective we 3181 02:02:02,550 --> 02:02:01,679 have a strong partnership in the five 3182 02:02:05,589 --> 02:02:02,560 eyes 3183 02:02:07,510 --> 02:02:05,599 and we really should be building on that 3184 02:02:11,430 --> 02:02:07,520 when you think about resilience and 3185 02:02:13,750 --> 02:02:11,440 persistence and reconstitution 3186 02:02:16,629 --> 02:02:13,760 the geographical diversity that comes 3187 02:02:18,149 --> 02:02:16,639 with having partners around the world 3188 02:02:20,470 --> 02:02:18,159 both in space surveillance but 3189 02:02:22,310 --> 02:02:20,480 potentially in launch in 3190 02:02:24,149 --> 02:02:22,320 command and control nodes ground 3191 02:02:26,070 --> 02:02:24,159 tracking stations and so forth 3192 02:02:28,950 --> 02:02:26,080 absolutely essential 3193 02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:28,960 as a part of that architecture 3194 02:02:33,669 --> 02:02:30,960 i thought admiral ellis's comments about 3195 02:02:36,310 --> 02:02:33,679 norms were very good i will make one 3196 02:02:38,629 --> 02:02:36,320 additional comment to that which is that 3197 02:02:40,950 --> 02:02:38,639 norms and standards need to be things 3198 02:02:42,790 --> 02:02:40,960 that we are also willing to do 3199 02:02:44,950 --> 02:02:42,800 it will not work if we 3200 02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:44,960 say oh we don't want people to do 3201 02:02:48,550 --> 02:02:47,040 certain things oh but oh well if we need 3202 02:02:50,950 --> 02:02:48,560 to do it we're just going to go ahead 3203 02:02:53,030 --> 02:02:50,960 and do it anyway and and that's why 3204 02:02:54,390 --> 02:02:53,040 those norms and standards need to be 3205 02:02:55,430 --> 02:02:54,400 based on 3206 02:02:58,390 --> 02:02:55,440 safety 3207 02:03:00,709 --> 02:02:58,400 and uh clarity in other words not 3208 02:03:03,510 --> 02:03:00,719 confusing people about intentions and so 3209 02:03:05,189 --> 02:03:03,520 forth and a wonderful example of norms 3210 02:03:06,550 --> 02:03:05,199 and standards that have been adopted 3211 02:03:08,629 --> 02:03:06,560 internationally 3212 02:03:11,189 --> 02:03:08,639 that have a strong technical basis are 3213 02:03:13,510 --> 02:03:11,199 the orbital debris mitigation standards 3214 02:03:15,669 --> 02:03:13,520 developed by nasa and proliferated 3215 02:03:17,350 --> 02:03:15,679 throughout the world that most countries 3216 02:03:19,750 --> 02:03:17,360 have agreed to do 3217 02:03:22,709 --> 02:03:19,760 on from a safety standpoint right the 3218 02:03:25,830 --> 02:03:22,719 sustainability of space and so those 3219 02:03:29,589 --> 02:03:25,840 norms and standards need to be based on 3220 02:03:33,830 --> 02:03:29,599 practical safety and clarity as opposed 3221 02:03:36,709 --> 02:03:35,030 all right thank you 3222 02:03:39,430 --> 02:03:36,719 at the panel dr griffin another thought 3223 02:03:41,589 --> 02:03:39,440 on this uh just a quick comment uh you 3224 02:03:43,750 --> 02:03:41,599 asked about secretary mr secretary asked 3225 02:03:46,550 --> 02:03:43,760 about alliances 3226 02:03:49,109 --> 02:03:46,560 the united states is a great nation 3227 02:03:51,750 --> 02:03:49,119 i hope we all hope all always will be 3228 02:03:54,470 --> 02:03:51,760 great nations of course must be prepared 3229 02:03:56,550 --> 02:03:54,480 sometimes to lead alone if necessary but 3230 02:03:58,790 --> 02:03:56,560 great nations also understand 3231 02:04:01,189 --> 02:03:58,800 the value of alliances and partnerships 3232 02:04:05,109 --> 02:04:01,199 and nowhere is this more true or has 3233 02:04:10,709 --> 02:04:07,910 going forward 3234 02:04:12,709 --> 02:04:10,719 if if we want to know what a conflict of 3235 02:04:13,830 --> 02:04:12,719 the future looks like without our space 3236 02:04:15,430 --> 02:04:13,840 assets 3237 02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:15,440 we need to look to the past and look at 3238 02:04:19,750 --> 02:04:17,119 world war ii i don't think we want to 3239 02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:19,760 repeat that experience our allies don't 3240 02:04:24,149 --> 02:04:21,760 want to repeat it the value of the 3241 02:04:26,950 --> 02:04:24,159 western alliance that we have the value 3242 02:04:29,350 --> 02:04:26,960 of our alliances with japan south korea 3243 02:04:31,830 --> 02:04:29,360 other nations pam mentioned the five 3244 02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:34,229 these are critical to carry forward with 3245 02:04:39,270 --> 02:04:36,000 us in space 3246 02:04:41,830 --> 02:04:39,280 absolutely critical 3247 02:04:44,149 --> 02:04:41,840 uh well i want to thank the panel and uh 3248 02:04:46,870 --> 02:04:44,159 a few more comments uh 3249 02:04:48,629 --> 02:04:46,880 uh let me recognize uh 3250 02:04:51,030 --> 02:04:48,639 the president's homeland security 3251 02:04:52,550 --> 02:04:51,040 adviser tom bossert for a comment or 3252 02:04:55,030 --> 02:04:52,560 question 3253 02:04:58,310 --> 02:04:55,040 ah thank you mr vice president and i am 3254 02:05:00,149 --> 02:04:58,320 thrilled to be part of this long overdue 3255 02:05:01,189 --> 02:05:00,159 council i think the national space 3256 02:05:02,709 --> 02:05:01,199 council 3257 02:05:04,390 --> 02:05:02,719 has a lot of challenges ahead of it and 3258 02:05:06,310 --> 02:05:04,400 a lot of opportunities so 3259 02:05:08,629 --> 02:05:06,320 maybe a quick question and dr griffin 3260 02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:08,639 you've already perhaps addressed it 3261 02:05:12,950 --> 02:05:10,960 so i'll ask to 3262 02:05:14,870 --> 02:05:12,960 if i can get you to expand upon your 3263 02:05:16,950 --> 02:05:14,880 thoughts from a security perspective 3264 02:05:18,470 --> 02:05:16,960 both physical and cyber 3265 02:05:20,149 --> 02:05:18,480 i'm really interested in your views and 3266 02:05:21,510 --> 02:05:20,159 the panel's views on the vulnerabilities 3267 02:05:23,669 --> 02:05:21,520 and challenges 3268 02:05:25,189 --> 02:05:23,679 to a reliable sustained space-based 3269 02:05:26,390 --> 02:05:25,199 positioning navigation and timing 3270 02:05:27,990 --> 02:05:26,400 infrastructure 3271 02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:28,000 and in particular the relationships are 3272 02:05:30,950 --> 02:05:29,360 the actions that we need to take to 3273 02:05:32,629 --> 02:05:30,960 maintain american 3274 02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:32,639 preeminence i understand there's 3275 02:05:37,910 --> 02:05:35,840 competitors the gps system uh that we've 3276 02:05:39,109 --> 02:05:37,920 relied upon so heavily but i also 3277 02:05:40,550 --> 02:05:39,119 understand there are vulnerabilities 3278 02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:40,560 that are being exploited on a regular 3279 02:05:43,350 --> 02:05:41,920 basis and that 3280 02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:43,360 that timing 3281 02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:45,119 function is not only critical physically 3282 02:05:49,430 --> 02:05:47,520 but to our cyber operations and so if i 3283 02:05:51,990 --> 02:05:49,440 could ask that question and then 3284 02:05:54,470 --> 02:05:52,000 before i finish add to mick mulvaney's 3285 02:05:56,390 --> 02:05:54,480 comments this isn't a question but uh 3286 02:05:58,390 --> 02:05:56,400 perhaps off the stage i'd like to 3287 02:06:00,310 --> 02:05:58,400 understand your considerations 3288 02:06:02,470 --> 02:06:00,320 and your views on the considerations 3289 02:06:04,470 --> 02:06:02,480 involved in delineating outer space 3290 02:06:07,830 --> 02:06:04,480 in our declarative policy as that 3291 02:06:11,430 --> 02:06:09,350 well i'll go first 3292 02:06:13,430 --> 02:06:11,440 to the second question to answer your 3293 02:06:16,069 --> 02:06:13,440 second question whether on or off stage 3294 02:06:18,069 --> 02:06:16,079 i'm always available for 3295 02:06:20,310 --> 02:06:18,079 those sorts of discussions you have only 3296 02:06:22,709 --> 02:06:20,320 to ask 3297 02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:22,719 obviously i'm a person who leans forward 3298 02:06:26,470 --> 02:06:24,560 in saying that 3299 02:06:29,589 --> 02:06:26,480 we need to be very clear as admiral 3300 02:06:31,830 --> 02:06:29,599 ellis has so sinc so succinctly said 3301 02:06:34,229 --> 02:06:31,840 about what we will do and and what we 3302 02:06:35,990 --> 02:06:34,239 will accept and what we won't accept 3303 02:06:38,470 --> 02:06:36,000 and and i do think that needs to be part 3304 02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:38,480 of our declarative policy with regard to 3305 02:06:43,189 --> 02:06:41,440 gps and and frankly other as 3306 02:06:46,550 --> 02:06:43,199 other elements of our critical 3307 02:06:50,069 --> 02:06:49,189 we need to be extremely clear 3308 02:06:52,470 --> 02:06:50,079 that 3309 02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:52,480 an attack on these assets 3310 02:06:55,669 --> 02:06:54,560 is an attack on the united states 3311 02:06:58,470 --> 02:06:55,679 because it 3312 02:07:00,790 --> 02:06:58,480 influences critically 3313 02:07:04,470 --> 02:07:00,800 our way of dealing with conflict and 3314 02:07:09,109 --> 02:07:06,390 gps is 3315 02:07:10,950 --> 02:07:09,119 vulnerable in a number of ways i'm not 3316 02:07:14,229 --> 02:07:10,960 going to go into those ways in this 3317 02:07:20,950 --> 02:07:17,510 we need to do everything we can to 3318 02:07:28,149 --> 02:07:24,830 gps derived but gps independent methods 3319 02:07:31,510 --> 02:07:28,159 of capturing and preserving our timing 3320 02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:31,520 signals and our navigational information 3321 02:07:35,990 --> 02:07:33,280 we need to make it clear that we will 3322 02:07:39,109 --> 02:07:36,000 protect our space assets 3323 02:07:41,990 --> 02:07:39,119 that we do not allow our adversaries an 3324 02:07:43,270 --> 02:07:42,000 unfettered field of force application in 3325 02:07:45,510 --> 02:07:43,280 space 3326 02:07:46,950 --> 02:07:45,520 that we choose not to be the first but 3327 02:07:54,310 --> 02:07:46,960 that we will 3328 02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:57,189 i'm sorry 3329 02:08:01,830 --> 02:07:59,189 well thank you further for the question 3330 02:08:04,229 --> 02:08:01,840 i echo mike's comments on on pnt and 3331 02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:04,239 your your understanding certainly uh dr 3332 02:08:08,149 --> 02:08:05,920 bossert uh 3333 02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:08,159 it's also worth noting that you know 3334 02:08:12,550 --> 02:08:10,320 we've made great strides since gps was 3335 02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:12,560 first invented it began as a transit 3336 02:08:16,629 --> 02:08:14,480 system for the navy years ago and we 3337 02:08:18,069 --> 02:08:16,639 worked through gps one two and three and 3338 02:08:19,589 --> 02:08:18,079 while we could all agree that we need to 3339 02:08:20,870 --> 02:08:19,599 have that capability to move much more 3340 02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:20,880 rapidly through that there are 3341 02:08:24,950 --> 02:08:22,800 opportunities to incrementally involve 3342 02:08:26,629 --> 02:08:24,960 evolve our capabilities in space to 3343 02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:26,639 ensure that continued access and 3344 02:08:29,830 --> 02:08:28,239 security that we need to fully 3345 02:08:31,510 --> 02:08:29,840 capitalize on and as mike has as 3346 02:08:32,870 --> 02:08:31,520 indicated a lot of those elements are 3347 02:08:35,669 --> 02:08:32,880 are classified but they're certainly 3348 02:08:37,589 --> 02:08:35,679 doable uh secondly with regard to 3349 02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:37,599 the declaratory policy we 3350 02:08:41,189 --> 02:08:39,119 you know you can look back in history 3351 02:08:42,550 --> 02:08:41,199 and we've had declaratory policies and 3352 02:08:44,229 --> 02:08:42,560 declarative doesn't mean necessarily in 3353 02:08:45,589 --> 02:08:44,239 a public press release we've let 3354 02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:45,599 adversaries know particularly in 3355 02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:47,040 relation to elements of the nuclear 3356 02:08:51,589 --> 02:08:49,440 command and control network how we would 3357 02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:51,599 view anything that disrupted or 3358 02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:53,360 disturbed much less destroyed those 3359 02:08:57,430 --> 02:08:55,280 capabilities and so there's a precedent 3360 02:08:59,109 --> 02:08:57,440 for this kind of a communication once we 3361 02:09:00,709 --> 02:08:59,119 decide exactly 3362 02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:00,719 what that policy and strategy needs to 3363 02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:05,350 colonel 3364 02:09:10,470 --> 02:09:08,170 uh yes i'd just like to add that um 3365 02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:10,480 [Music] 3366 02:09:15,350 --> 02:09:12,560 this is not something that's caught us 3367 02:09:17,750 --> 02:09:15,360 all by surprise uh when i was at darpa 3368 02:09:20,069 --> 02:09:17,760 we were working closely with the 3369 02:09:21,189 --> 02:09:20,079 service labs and the services 3370 02:09:23,750 --> 02:09:21,199 to 3371 02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:23,760 ensure that we had gps independent 3372 02:09:27,430 --> 02:09:25,360 methods of navigation and that 3373 02:09:28,790 --> 02:09:27,440 technology development is absolutely 3374 02:09:31,109 --> 02:09:28,800 essential 3375 02:09:33,510 --> 02:09:31,119 interestingly you know long term it can 3376 02:09:36,069 --> 02:09:33,520 have a different technology benefit as 3377 02:09:37,510 --> 02:09:36,079 we reach out into the solar system 3378 02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:37,520 where we will not have the benefit of 3379 02:09:41,750 --> 02:09:39,920 gps position information 3380 02:09:43,270 --> 02:09:41,760 so that's a very important technology 3381 02:09:47,030 --> 02:09:43,280 development effort 3382 02:09:49,189 --> 02:09:47,040 but i'd like to reiterate exactly what 3383 02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:49,199 what dr griffin said 3384 02:09:53,750 --> 02:09:51,520 because although we may have those 3385 02:09:56,790 --> 02:09:53,760 capabilities for national security to be 3386 02:09:58,790 --> 02:09:56,800 gps independent that is not the case for 3387 02:10:00,790 --> 02:09:58,800 our economic 3388 02:10:02,149 --> 02:10:00,800 environment here in the u.s 3389 02:10:03,189 --> 02:10:02,159 and 3390 02:10:05,589 --> 02:10:03,199 of course 3391 02:10:07,990 --> 02:10:05,599 the economic health of the u.s is a 3392 02:10:09,109 --> 02:10:08,000 national security matter and it will be 3393 02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:09,119 years 3394 02:10:13,589 --> 02:10:11,199 before any changes occur in that 3395 02:10:15,430 --> 02:10:13,599 environment they will change very slowly 3396 02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:15,440 there's tremendous commercial dependence 3397 02:10:20,790 --> 02:10:18,639 on it and so i i agree with dr griffin 3398 02:10:22,790 --> 02:10:20,800 that an attack on gps is an attack on 3399 02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:22,800 the us 3400 02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:24,639 thank you very much to the panel and uh 3401 02:10:28,229 --> 02:10:25,840 thank you tom 3402 02:10:30,470 --> 02:10:28,239 i'm going to recognize the vice chairman 3403 02:10:32,870 --> 02:10:30,480 of the joint chiefs of staff general 3404 02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:32,880 paul selva and then 3405 02:10:36,069 --> 02:10:34,560 the deputy secretary of defense for some 3406 02:10:39,510 --> 02:10:36,079 closing remarks before we hear from the 3407 02:10:42,629 --> 02:10:41,109 general you're recognized thank you mr 3408 02:10:44,470 --> 02:10:42,639 vice president thank you to all of our 3409 02:10:46,870 --> 02:10:44,480 panel members for taking your personal 3410 02:10:49,830 --> 02:10:46,880 time to be here today to represent 3411 02:10:52,550 --> 02:10:49,840 all three segments of our 3412 02:10:54,149 --> 02:10:52,560 space architecture and infrastructure 3413 02:10:57,189 --> 02:10:54,159 and it occurs to me as i listen to all 3414 02:10:59,669 --> 02:10:57,199 three panels particularly this one 3415 02:11:03,350 --> 02:10:59,679 that command and control 3416 02:11:06,149 --> 02:11:03,360 is inexorably linked to very elegant 3417 02:11:07,990 --> 02:11:06,159 and timely as you said pamela space 3418 02:11:09,830 --> 02:11:08,000 situational awareness 3419 02:11:12,470 --> 02:11:09,840 and i would i'd like to ask the panel 3420 02:11:14,390 --> 02:11:12,480 can you give us a couple of concrete 3421 02:11:16,229 --> 02:11:14,400 near-term things 3422 02:11:18,790 --> 02:11:16,239 you think we can do 3423 02:11:21,750 --> 02:11:18,800 not only to facilitate the command and 3424 02:11:23,750 --> 02:11:21,760 control of commercial and civil space 3425 02:11:25,589 --> 02:11:23,760 but also to provide for the kind of 3426 02:11:26,870 --> 02:11:25,599 space situational awareness that's 3427 02:11:28,950 --> 02:11:26,880 necessary 3428 02:11:30,390 --> 02:11:28,960 to enforce those norms and standards of 3429 02:11:33,430 --> 02:11:30,400 safe behavior 3430 02:11:34,950 --> 02:11:33,440 as well as to attribute the kinds of 3431 02:11:37,270 --> 02:11:34,960 attacks or 3432 02:11:40,709 --> 02:11:37,280 interference with our systems that we 3433 02:11:43,750 --> 02:11:40,719 might observe through that structure 3434 02:11:46,629 --> 02:11:43,760 i think this is a case where 3435 02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:46,639 safety lies in numbers 3436 02:11:51,510 --> 02:11:48,800 i believe that the concept of a 3437 02:11:55,990 --> 02:11:51,520 centralized command and control node 3438 02:12:00,870 --> 02:11:58,229 is frankly as as dead as the battleship 3439 02:12:02,709 --> 02:12:00,880 after pearl harbor 3440 02:12:04,390 --> 02:12:02,719 every node 3441 02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:04,400 in our networks 3442 02:12:09,830 --> 02:12:06,880 with today's information technology 3443 02:12:11,030 --> 02:12:09,840 every node can be a command and control 3444 02:12:12,709 --> 02:12:11,040 node 3445 02:12:15,109 --> 02:12:12,719 we need to work out a strategy in a 3446 02:12:17,189 --> 02:12:15,119 hierarchy for how such 3447 02:12:21,430 --> 02:12:17,199 devolution would take place in the event 3448 02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:21,440 of conflict but the enemy should know 3449 02:12:25,109 --> 02:12:22,960 that 3450 02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:25,119 there is no central point of attack 3451 02:12:30,709 --> 02:12:27,679 which could render us 3452 02:12:34,629 --> 02:12:30,719 uh incapacitated 3453 02:12:38,629 --> 02:12:36,390 thank you general uh 3454 02:12:40,069 --> 02:12:38,639 i echo mike's comments and and i i hope 3455 02:12:41,510 --> 02:12:40,079 you didn't interpret my comments on the 3456 02:12:43,589 --> 02:12:41,520 neighborhood watch and my opening 3457 02:12:45,270 --> 02:12:43,599 statement is trivializing it i believe 3458 02:12:46,550 --> 02:12:45,280 that along the lines of mike's 3459 02:12:48,550 --> 02:12:46,560 conversation in addition to command and 3460 02:12:50,870 --> 02:12:48,560 control each of these resources up there 3461 02:12:53,830 --> 02:12:50,880 can be outfitted with a rudimentary 3462 02:12:56,229 --> 02:12:53,840 sensor suite of some stripe that could 3463 02:12:58,149 --> 02:12:56,239 then collectively feed this this network 3464 02:13:00,950 --> 02:12:58,159 and this awareness we're we're belatedly 3465 02:13:02,709 --> 02:13:00,960 arguably moving on a much more capable 3466 02:13:05,030 --> 02:13:02,719 space fence that ought to be just the 3467 02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:05,040 first step in uh in ensuring uh 3468 02:13:08,229 --> 02:13:06,719 situational awareness as you are are 3469 02:13:11,030 --> 02:13:08,239 fully aware there are now commercial 3470 02:13:13,910 --> 02:13:11,040 enterprises out there that can network 3471 02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:13,920 uh ground-based systems of sensors to to 3472 02:13:17,589 --> 02:13:16,000 not with the same fidelity and accuracy 3473 02:13:19,510 --> 02:13:17,599 of our of our national security 3474 02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:19,520 resources but certainly contribute 3475 02:13:23,350 --> 02:13:21,199 information and insight to this this is 3476 02:13:24,790 --> 02:13:23,360 a collective effort this is a team sport 3477 02:13:27,430 --> 02:13:24,800 going forward and by team i don't just 3478 02:13:29,350 --> 02:13:27,440 mean u.s civilian i mean allies and 3479 02:13:33,750 --> 02:13:29,360 partners as well around the globe and 3480 02:13:38,470 --> 02:13:36,149 admiral ellis is right there have been 3481 02:13:40,550 --> 02:13:38,480 tremendous advances in distributed 3482 02:13:42,629 --> 02:13:40,560 sensor networks where you have 3483 02:13:44,950 --> 02:13:42,639 distributed sensors that all 3484 02:13:47,030 --> 02:13:44,960 coordinate together where the 3485 02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:47,040 the hole is greater than the sum of the 3486 02:13:51,990 --> 02:13:50,000 parts and that technology is widely 3487 02:13:53,589 --> 02:13:52,000 available 3488 02:13:56,229 --> 02:13:53,599 as i talked about 3489 02:13:59,270 --> 02:13:56,239 there's some commercial sensors now for 3490 02:14:01,189 --> 02:13:59,280 space surveillance essentially 3491 02:14:03,350 --> 02:14:01,199 academic telescopes commercial 3492 02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:03,360 telescopes and radars 3493 02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:06,000 and and this information is available 3494 02:14:09,589 --> 02:14:08,480 today it's being purchased by commercial 3495 02:14:11,430 --> 02:14:09,599 entities 3496 02:14:14,149 --> 02:14:11,440 by the sda 3497 02:14:16,470 --> 02:14:14,159 i think that's an immediate step 3498 02:14:18,069 --> 02:14:16,480 that could be taken would be to bring 3499 02:14:20,550 --> 02:14:18,079 this data in 3500 02:14:22,709 --> 02:14:20,560 one of the biggest concerns about it is 3501 02:14:24,149 --> 02:14:22,719 how can you trust this data 3502 02:14:25,430 --> 02:14:24,159 even today 3503 02:14:26,390 --> 02:14:25,440 there are 3504 02:14:28,550 --> 02:14:26,400 analysts 3505 02:14:31,030 --> 02:14:28,560 who look at all the data that comes in 3506 02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:31,040 even from our certified sensors and 3507 02:14:35,830 --> 02:14:33,520 analyze it to evaluate whether there's 3508 02:14:37,910 --> 02:14:35,840 biases that are developing whether 3509 02:14:39,430 --> 02:14:37,920 weather is 3510 02:14:41,430 --> 02:14:39,440 having a negative effect on the 3511 02:14:44,390 --> 02:14:41,440 information that we're gathering but 3512 02:14:45,350 --> 02:14:44,400 that's pretty much a hand 3513 02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:45,360 done 3514 02:14:50,229 --> 02:14:47,920 process it takes about four or five days 3515 02:14:51,830 --> 02:14:50,239 to really be sure 3516 02:14:53,350 --> 02:14:51,840 how confident you are and the quality of 3517 02:14:55,750 --> 02:14:53,360 what you're looking at 3518 02:14:56,790 --> 02:14:55,760 all of that can be automated relatively 3519 02:14:59,030 --> 02:14:56,800 easily 3520 02:15:00,149 --> 02:14:59,040 and that's a very very important aspect 3521 02:15:02,629 --> 02:15:00,159 of it 3522 02:15:04,629 --> 02:15:02,639 when you get a new piece of information 3523 02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:04,639 you need to be able to tell immediately 3524 02:15:07,589 --> 02:15:05,760 whether 3525 02:15:08,790 --> 02:15:07,599 something actually just happened on 3526 02:15:11,030 --> 02:15:08,800 orbit 3527 02:15:12,790 --> 02:15:11,040 or if one of your distributed sensors 3528 02:15:14,870 --> 02:15:12,800 has been spoofed and is giving you 3529 02:15:17,589 --> 02:15:14,880 incorrect information and that is 3530 02:15:19,189 --> 02:15:17,599 incredibly important and it is possible 3531 02:15:20,870 --> 02:15:19,199 to automate that 3532 02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:20,880 we've seen the technologies be developed 3533 02:15:24,790 --> 02:15:22,800 for it so i think that 3534 02:15:26,069 --> 02:15:24,800 general in in the near term that's 3535 02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:26,079 something that should be looked at 3536 02:15:29,030 --> 02:15:27,119 that's great 3537 02:15:31,990 --> 02:15:29,040 for the last comment or a question the 3538 02:15:34,550 --> 02:15:32,000 deputy secretary of defense pat shanahan 3539 02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:34,560 thank you mr vice president um 3540 02:15:39,669 --> 02:15:36,880 maybe to bring us home and and where we 3541 02:15:41,350 --> 02:15:39,679 started space is the opportunity 3542 02:15:42,709 --> 02:15:41,360 and i think the uh 3543 02:15:44,470 --> 02:15:42,719 previous 3544 02:15:46,629 --> 02:15:44,480 comments kind of steered us towards some 3545 02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:46,639 of the challenges but uh 3546 02:15:49,830 --> 02:15:48,480 and this question i think goes to uh 3547 02:15:51,669 --> 02:15:49,840 admiral ellis so you've had an 3548 02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:51,679 extraordinary career 3549 02:15:55,350 --> 02:15:53,520 and some very remarkable experiences 3550 02:15:57,750 --> 02:15:55,360 maybe in the 3551 02:15:59,189 --> 02:15:57,760 context of of looking forward when you 3552 02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:59,199 think about 3553 02:16:02,149 --> 02:16:00,639 how 3554 02:16:05,030 --> 02:16:02,159 and this pertains your experience in the 3555 02:16:06,629 --> 02:16:05,040 navy as a pilot as strategic command 3556 02:16:09,189 --> 02:16:06,639 commander 3557 02:16:11,430 --> 02:16:09,199 as maritime law evolved does that serve 3558 02:16:14,390 --> 02:16:11,440 as a basis for us to think about 3559 02:16:16,310 --> 02:16:14,400 international convention or regulation 3560 02:16:19,109 --> 02:16:16,320 and how should we use that 3561 02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:19,119 to shape this opportunity 3562 02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:21,040 thank you mr secretary i i certainly do 3563 02:16:24,950 --> 02:16:22,719 think it does apply it's a template 3564 02:16:26,950 --> 02:16:24,960 against which we can compare the space 3565 02:16:29,109 --> 02:16:26,960 uh environment and our challenges there 3566 02:16:30,390 --> 02:16:29,119 and quite frankly cyberspace as well as 3567 02:16:32,549 --> 02:16:30,400 i mentioned earlier some things will 3568 02:16:34,389 --> 02:16:32,559 translate some things may not 3569 02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:34,399 and and that's part of our judgment on 3570 02:16:38,790 --> 02:16:35,760 our evaluation process but it's 3571 02:16:40,870 --> 02:16:38,800 certainly a starting point uh and as you 3572 02:16:42,549 --> 02:16:40,880 know and as we discussed 3573 02:16:43,669 --> 02:16:42,559 over time we've 3574 02:16:45,990 --> 02:16:43,679 come to 3575 02:16:48,230 --> 02:16:46,000 establish and agree to and actively 3576 02:16:49,589 --> 02:16:48,240 participate in and support a global 3577 02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:49,599 understanding of what the rules of 3578 02:16:53,509 --> 02:16:51,760 behavior are and what they are not we 3579 02:16:55,429 --> 02:16:53,519 can call out people very clearly and 3580 02:16:57,750 --> 02:16:55,439 very candidly when they violate those 3581 02:16:59,190 --> 02:16:57,760 rules it's taken a long time to do that 3582 02:17:01,030 --> 02:16:59,200 unfortunately in space things have 3583 02:17:02,150 --> 02:17:01,040 evolved at a pace there where those 3584 02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:02,160 kinds of policies and those 3585 02:17:06,309 --> 02:17:03,840 opportunities haven't been presented 3586 02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:06,319 things happen too fast i mean the the 3587 02:17:11,190 --> 02:17:08,719 technology we are talking about today 3588 02:17:13,910 --> 02:17:11,200 you know began uh you know essentially 3589 02:17:15,110 --> 02:17:13,920 about 60 years ago and so uh it's time 3590 02:17:18,150 --> 02:17:15,120 to play catch-up and i think the 3591 02:17:20,309 --> 02:17:18,160 maritime can uh begin a a discussion it 3592 02:17:21,990 --> 02:17:20,319 can talk about the the treaties as i 3593 02:17:23,669 --> 02:17:22,000 mentioned and the supranational 3594 02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:23,679 organizations but at the end of the day 3595 02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:25,040 we also need to get it down to the 3596 02:17:29,349 --> 02:17:27,280 tactical uh you know we created even 3597 02:17:31,110 --> 02:17:29,359 during the dark days of the cold war uh 3598 02:17:32,950 --> 02:17:31,120 the so-called incident at sea agreements 3599 02:17:34,790 --> 02:17:32,960 with the russians where we agreed what 3600 02:17:37,110 --> 02:17:34,800 we would and would not do under certain 3601 02:17:38,870 --> 02:17:37,120 circumstances to avoid miscalculation 3602 02:17:41,110 --> 02:17:38,880 and accidents and collisions and and 3603 02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:41,120 potentially uh misunderstandings and 3604 02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:43,519 misinterpretation of hostile intent and 3605 02:17:47,589 --> 02:17:45,040 those kinds of dialogues that full 3606 02:17:49,190 --> 02:17:47,599 spectrum of engagement based on the 3607 02:17:51,110 --> 02:17:49,200 those applicable elements of the 3608 02:17:53,030 --> 02:17:51,120 maritime experience i think are a great 3609 02:17:55,110 --> 02:17:53,040 starting point for that policy and 3610 02:17:57,589 --> 02:17:55,120 strategy discussion and as the 3611 02:17:59,669 --> 02:17:57,599 preeminent space faring leader 3612 02:18:01,429 --> 02:17:59,679 we need to lead that effort and not just 3613 02:18:03,669 --> 02:18:01,439 accept what gets handed to us or what 3614 02:18:05,830 --> 02:18:03,679 evolves or what someone else who might 3615 02:18:08,150 --> 02:18:05,840 risk us ill as was mentioned earlier 3616 02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:08,160 might choose to advance as a as an 3617 02:18:11,509 --> 02:18:10,319 alternative solution that's great thank 3618 02:18:21,110 --> 02:18:11,519 you 3619 02:18:22,709 --> 02:18:21,120 this extraordinary group of americans 3620 02:18:29,589 --> 02:18:22,719 for uh 3621 02:18:34,389 --> 02:18:31,349 this obviously been an 3622 02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:34,399 enormously important uh discussion uh 3623 02:18:39,270 --> 02:18:36,960 for our country and uh uh one that we 3624 02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:39,280 will continue uh on the national space 3625 02:18:43,349 --> 02:18:41,519 council in appropriate settings 3626 02:18:46,629 --> 02:18:43,359 um i'm grateful for the panelists for 3627 02:18:48,549 --> 02:18:46,639 their time and and i want to commend uh 3628 02:18:50,389 --> 02:18:48,559 members of the council for your uh 3629 02:18:52,549 --> 02:18:50,399 thoughtful participation in this panel 3630 02:18:54,469 --> 02:18:52,559 and in the previous panels general 3631 02:18:56,230 --> 02:18:54,479 mcmaster president's national security 3632 02:18:59,669 --> 02:18:56,240 advisor you and your team been working 3633 02:19:02,709 --> 02:18:59,679 on guiding interagency development 3634 02:19:05,030 --> 02:19:02,719 of this the space strategic framework i 3635 02:19:07,270 --> 02:19:05,040 wondered if you would 3636 02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:07,280 offer a few thoughts uh 3637 02:19:11,589 --> 02:19:09,760 perhaps an unclassified overview on the 3638 02:19:13,509 --> 02:19:11,599 status of those efforts 3639 02:19:15,110 --> 02:19:13,519 thank you mr vice president and thanks 3640 02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:15,120 to everyone who came today and 3641 02:19:18,469 --> 02:19:16,960 especially you know those around the 3642 02:19:20,790 --> 02:19:18,479 table who we've been working with over 3643 02:19:22,870 --> 02:19:20,800 the past several months to develop the 3644 02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:22,880 space strategic framework a framework 3645 02:19:27,429 --> 02:19:25,120 that i think will be valuable as we 3646 02:19:29,589 --> 02:19:27,439 continue this discussion as we learn 3647 02:19:31,750 --> 02:19:29,599 from the expertise that's here today and 3648 02:19:33,589 --> 02:19:31,760 and even beyond this room 3649 02:19:35,509 --> 02:19:33,599 so as marilyn houston mentioned on the 3650 02:19:38,790 --> 02:19:35,519 first panel mr vice president the pace 3651 02:19:40,950 --> 02:19:38,800 of technology is increasing and what we 3652 02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:40,960 see is a combination 3653 02:19:47,509 --> 02:19:44,160 of greater counter space threats 3654 02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:47,519 and a greater demand for space services 3655 02:19:52,309 --> 02:19:50,240 rapidly expanding commercial industry 3656 02:19:55,590 --> 02:19:52,319 and untapped potential of space 3657 02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:55,600 exploration all of this is calling for 3658 02:20:01,270 --> 02:19:58,560 an integrated strategy to ensure that 3659 02:20:02,630 --> 02:20:01,280 the united states vital interests are 3660 02:20:04,550 --> 02:20:02,640 advanced 3661 02:20:06,309 --> 02:20:04,560 and so much of the strategic framework 3662 02:20:07,750 --> 02:20:06,319 is classified mr vice president but what 3663 02:20:09,590 --> 02:20:07,760 i'll do today is 3664 02:20:12,870 --> 02:20:09,600 is highlight some of the key elements 3665 02:20:14,630 --> 02:20:12,880 very quickly uh that are unclassified 3666 02:20:17,910 --> 02:20:14,640 and what i'd like to do is is really 3667 02:20:19,429 --> 02:20:17,920 discuss four four key elements of of the 3668 02:20:22,630 --> 02:20:19,439 strategy first 3669 02:20:24,389 --> 02:20:22,640 our strategic framework seeks to ensure 3670 02:20:25,830 --> 02:20:24,399 us leadership 3671 02:20:27,910 --> 02:20:25,840 preeminence 3672 02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:27,920 and freedom of action in space and i 3673 02:20:32,309 --> 02:20:30,479 think based on the discussion today 3674 02:20:35,270 --> 02:20:32,319 will actually emphasize across all 3675 02:20:37,110 --> 02:20:35,280 domains more in in the document as well 3676 02:20:39,670 --> 02:20:37,120 but to ensure that that that preeminence 3677 02:20:40,710 --> 02:20:39,680 for decades to come 3678 02:20:42,550 --> 02:20:40,720 second 3679 02:20:44,230 --> 02:20:42,560 while the strategic framework promotes 3680 02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:44,240 an america first approach it is 3681 02:20:47,910 --> 02:20:46,000 consistent with what the panelists have 3682 02:20:49,830 --> 02:20:47,920 said and what you have said many times 3683 02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:49,840 mr vice president that america first 3684 02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:51,040 doesn't mean 3685 02:20:55,990 --> 02:20:53,760 america alone to the contrary we will 3686 02:20:58,950 --> 02:20:56,000 secure the benefits of space not only 3687 02:21:01,429 --> 02:20:58,960 for ourselves but for and with 3688 02:21:04,230 --> 02:21:01,439 our friends and allies as an essential 3689 02:21:06,389 --> 02:21:04,240 part of this of this framework third 3690 02:21:08,309 --> 02:21:06,399 the framework defines our vital 3691 02:21:10,870 --> 02:21:08,319 interests in space and again we may 3692 02:21:13,030 --> 02:21:10,880 modify this about how space relates to 3693 02:21:15,110 --> 02:21:13,040 vital interests and other domains 3694 02:21:17,030 --> 02:21:15,120 as well based on dr griffin's and other 3695 02:21:18,469 --> 02:21:17,040 and others emphasis on on the cross 3696 02:21:21,270 --> 02:21:18,479 domain aspects 3697 02:21:22,230 --> 02:21:21,280 but we want to ensure unfettered access 3698 02:21:30,230 --> 02:21:22,240 to 3699 02:21:32,389 --> 02:21:30,240 economic prosperity and scientific 3700 02:21:34,389 --> 02:21:32,399 knowledge of the nation and i think that 3701 02:21:37,190 --> 02:21:34,399 parallels really the the composition of 3702 02:21:40,389 --> 02:21:37,200 the three panels today and then fourth 3703 02:21:43,429 --> 02:21:40,399 uh as as uh dennis mullenberg mentioned 3704 02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:43,439 the framework also outlines four primary 3705 02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:45,680 objectives in pursuit of our vital 3706 02:21:49,349 --> 02:21:47,280 interests and this is the beginning of 3707 02:21:51,110 --> 02:21:49,359 an integrated strategy to to guard 3708 02:21:53,990 --> 02:21:51,120 against what admiral said is you know we 3709 02:21:56,150 --> 02:21:54,000 don't want this a strategic vacuum and 3710 02:21:57,110 --> 02:21:56,160 these are the four the four objectives 3711 02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:57,120 first 3712 02:22:00,550 --> 02:21:59,120 to strengthen the safety 3713 02:22:03,429 --> 02:22:00,560 stability 3714 02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:03,439 and sustainability of space activities i 3715 02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:05,280 think based on dr griffin's comments we 3716 02:22:09,030 --> 02:22:07,600 might add resilience there 3717 02:22:09,910 --> 02:22:09,040 there as well 3718 02:22:13,270 --> 02:22:09,920 second 3719 02:22:15,349 --> 02:22:13,280 to deter and when necessary defeat 3720 02:22:17,670 --> 02:22:15,359 adversary space and counter space 3721 02:22:20,070 --> 02:22:17,680 threats that are hostile to the national 3722 02:22:23,030 --> 02:22:20,080 interests of the united states and our 3723 02:22:26,710 --> 02:22:23,040 allies we may not start it again uh but 3724 02:22:28,550 --> 02:22:26,720 but we will finish it will be the last 3725 02:22:30,550 --> 02:22:28,560 consistent with what we've heard from 3726 02:22:32,389 --> 02:22:30,560 from the great panelists today we will 3727 02:22:34,710 --> 02:22:32,399 as a third objective partner with the 3728 02:22:37,270 --> 02:22:34,720 u.s commercial sector to ensure that 3729 02:22:39,670 --> 02:22:37,280 american companies remain the leading 3730 02:22:41,429 --> 02:22:39,680 providers of traditional and innovative 3731 02:22:43,830 --> 02:22:41,439 space technologies 3732 02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:43,840 goods and services on the international 3733 02:22:47,750 --> 02:22:45,439 space market 3734 02:22:51,670 --> 02:22:47,760 and then fourth the fourth objective to 3735 02:22:53,750 --> 02:22:51,680 maintain and extend us human presence 3736 02:22:56,710 --> 02:22:53,760 and robotic explorations 3737 02:22:58,230 --> 02:22:56,720 beyond earth to transform knowledge of 3738 02:22:59,830 --> 02:22:58,240 ourselves 3739 02:23:03,030 --> 02:22:59,840 our planet 3740 02:23:05,030 --> 02:23:03,040 our solar system and and the universe 3741 02:23:06,469 --> 02:23:05,040 and so with your concurrence mr vice 3742 02:23:09,349 --> 02:23:06,479 president once you're able to review 3743 02:23:11,830 --> 02:23:09,359 this what we will do with your approval 3744 02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:11,840 is we will now begin to to flesh out the 3745 02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:14,080 strategic framework we'll identify and 3746 02:23:17,190 --> 02:23:15,600 we'll do this collaboratively with those 3747 02:23:19,510 --> 02:23:17,200 who are here today and beyond we'll 3748 02:23:21,510 --> 02:23:19,520 identify the specific tasks 3749 02:23:24,230 --> 02:23:21,520 the the resources 3750 02:23:26,469 --> 02:23:24,240 and uh and and the authorities required 3751 02:23:28,469 --> 02:23:26,479 we'll identify measures of effectiveness 3752 02:23:29,750 --> 02:23:28,479 and we'll do a periodic assessment of 3753 02:23:32,469 --> 02:23:29,760 what we're doing we're going to move out 3754 02:23:34,790 --> 02:23:32,479 mr vice president and as as admiral 3755 02:23:37,830 --> 02:23:34,800 ellis has said as as colonel mcelroy 3756 02:23:39,510 --> 02:23:37,840 said we have to emphasize speed and and 3757 02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:39,520 and move out quickly 3758 02:23:43,429 --> 02:23:41,520 thank you mr vice president well uh 3759 02:23:44,870 --> 02:23:43,439 thank you general and uh 3760 02:23:46,870 --> 02:23:44,880 uh 3761 02:23:48,389 --> 02:23:46,880 if there is um 3762 02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:48,399 no further comment from members of the 3763 02:23:55,429 --> 02:23:51,439 council regarding the strategy 3764 02:23:58,469 --> 02:23:55,439 that general mcmaster uh outlined 3765 02:24:00,550 --> 02:23:58,479 um and hearing none um 3766 02:24:02,550 --> 02:24:00,560 i would simply direct you to continue to 3767 02:24:04,389 --> 02:24:02,560 work with other members of the council 3768 02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:04,399 and to develop an implementation plan 3769 02:24:09,990 --> 02:24:08,080 for that framework over the next 45 days 3770 02:24:11,429 --> 02:24:10,000 for a presentation to 3771 02:24:13,110 --> 02:24:11,439 president trump 3772 02:24:14,790 --> 02:24:13,120 with his 3773 02:24:16,710 --> 02:24:14,800 for his approval 3774 02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:16,720 so we'll we'll proceed on that basis 3775 02:24:20,070 --> 02:24:18,720 general thank you very much 3776 02:24:21,349 --> 02:24:20,080 um 3777 02:24:24,230 --> 02:24:21,359 we uh 3778 02:24:25,990 --> 02:24:24,240 we are at the end of uh this first 3779 02:24:27,590 --> 02:24:26,000 meeting of the national space council i 3780 02:24:29,990 --> 02:24:27,600 i want to uh 3781 02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:30,000 i want to thank uh each of the members 3782 02:24:35,590 --> 02:24:33,520 of the council and your staffs for uh 3783 02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:35,600 what has uh been a 3784 02:24:40,150 --> 02:24:37,840 um an enlightening 3785 02:24:43,270 --> 02:24:40,160 uh and engaging dialogue 3786 02:24:44,630 --> 02:24:43,280 uh in it and uh from where i'm sitting 3787 02:24:46,550 --> 02:24:44,640 and i trust where the president is 3788 02:24:49,270 --> 02:24:46,560 sending a very good start 3789 02:24:51,510 --> 02:24:49,280 uh on um a new beginning 3790 02:24:53,830 --> 02:24:51,520 uh for um uh 3791 02:24:57,429 --> 02:24:53,840 the national space council and for the 3792 02:24:58,950 --> 02:24:57,439 development of renewed american energy 3793 02:25:02,950 --> 02:24:58,960 in space uh 3794 02:25:04,389 --> 02:25:02,960 exploration both in the area of uh 3795 02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:04,399 of 3796 02:25:12,950 --> 02:25:11,040 our presence in space that contributes 3797 02:25:14,309 --> 02:25:12,960 to our national security 3798 02:25:15,990 --> 02:25:14,319 um 3799 02:25:18,070 --> 02:25:16,000 also i want to thank our staff in 3800 02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:18,080 particular uh and you could stand while 3801 02:25:22,070 --> 02:25:20,319 i say your name darris meeks who is our 3802 02:25:24,550 --> 02:25:22,080 policy director scott pace who is 3803 02:25:26,630 --> 02:25:24,560 leading national space council 3804 02:25:28,389 --> 02:25:26,640 jared stout and the team thank you for 3805 02:25:30,230 --> 02:25:28,399 pulling together a very 3806 02:25:36,070 --> 02:25:30,240 successful day 3807 02:25:40,870 --> 02:25:37,990 lastly to be brief to my fellow council 3808 02:25:43,990 --> 02:25:40,880 members you have your marching orders 3809 02:25:45,910 --> 02:25:44,000 let's work on a 45-day time frame for 3810 02:25:47,510 --> 02:25:45,920 turning around recommendations and 3811 02:25:50,710 --> 02:25:47,520 proposals 3812 02:25:52,070 --> 02:25:50,720 to the to the president based upon this 3813 02:25:54,230 --> 02:25:52,080 first meeting of the national space 3814 02:25:56,389 --> 02:25:54,240 council 3815 02:25:57,910 --> 02:25:56,399 i think today we prove that 3816 02:26:00,070 --> 02:25:57,920 that many of the best ideas that will 3817 02:26:02,389 --> 02:26:00,080 shape american space policy will come 3818 02:26:04,790 --> 02:26:02,399 from outside the halls of government 3819 02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:04,800 and i can assure all of those president 3820 02:26:08,630 --> 02:26:06,000 that we're going to continue to avail 3821 02:26:11,270 --> 02:26:08,640 ourselves of the very best and brightest 3822 02:26:13,110 --> 02:26:11,280 american minds as we develop policies 3823 02:26:15,270 --> 02:26:13,120 for presentation to president trump i'm 3824 02:26:18,150 --> 02:26:15,280 pleased to report in that vein that very 3825 02:26:21,190 --> 02:26:18,160 soon the president has directed us to 3826 02:26:23,429 --> 02:26:21,200 relaunch the national space council's 3827 02:26:25,670 --> 02:26:23,439 advisory group 3828 02:26:27,429 --> 02:26:25,680 to foster close coordination cooperation 3829 02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:27,439 technology information this group will 3830 02:26:32,230 --> 02:26:29,680 bring together a broad range 3831 02:26:33,349 --> 02:26:32,240 of truly exceptional americans 3832 02:26:34,710 --> 02:26:33,359 men and women who are committed to 3833 02:26:36,790 --> 02:26:34,720 advancing 3834 02:26:38,150 --> 02:26:36,800 and renewing american 3835 02:26:40,230 --> 02:26:38,160 leadership 3836 02:26:42,309 --> 02:26:40,240 in space in the days ahead 3837 02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:42,319 nasa will enter a notice 3838 02:26:46,230 --> 02:26:43,920 into the federal register to kick off 3839 02:26:47,510 --> 02:26:46,240 the process of recruiting candidates for 3840 02:26:49,670 --> 02:26:47,520 the group and 3841 02:26:51,190 --> 02:26:49,680 the president will make a selection 3842 02:26:52,150 --> 02:26:51,200 based on the recommendations of the 3843 02:26:55,190 --> 02:26:52,160 national 3844 02:26:57,910 --> 02:26:55,200 space council for who is appointed 3845 02:26:59,990 --> 02:26:57,920 to that and we encourage 3846 02:27:00,950 --> 02:27:00,000 we encourage any citizens who have an 3847 02:27:01,750 --> 02:27:00,960 interest 3848 02:27:04,790 --> 02:27:01,760 to 3849 02:27:05,990 --> 02:27:04,800 express 3850 02:27:07,429 --> 02:27:06,000 that interest 3851 02:27:09,190 --> 02:27:07,439 going forward 3852 02:27:11,590 --> 02:27:09,200 the members will all be private citizens 3853 02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:11,600 but their work for this council will be 3854 02:27:14,550 --> 02:27:13,120 the highest 3855 02:27:17,349 --> 02:27:14,560 public service 3856 02:27:19,910 --> 02:27:17,359 so i think we heard many themes today uh 3857 02:27:21,590 --> 02:27:19,920 i i won't uh i won't take any more of 3858 02:27:24,469 --> 02:27:21,600 people's times other than to say thank 3859 02:27:25,750 --> 02:27:24,479 you uh thank you to all of our 3860 02:27:27,270 --> 02:27:25,760 could we give another round of applause 3861 02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:27,280 for the distinguished panels that 3862 02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:37,830 we're grateful for your time i'm 3863 02:27:41,349 --> 02:27:40,000 grateful for and inspired by your words 3864 02:27:43,429 --> 02:27:41,359 and your leadership i'm grateful for 3865 02:27:45,190 --> 02:27:43,439 members of the national space council 3866 02:27:47,270 --> 02:27:45,200 cabinet members who are here thank you 3867 02:27:49,349 --> 02:27:47,280 for making this a priority 3868 02:27:51,429 --> 02:27:49,359 we got a lot of work to do 3869 02:27:53,190 --> 02:27:51,439 but 3870 02:27:54,950 --> 02:27:53,200 as the president said in his inaugural 3871 02:27:56,790 --> 02:27:54,960 address in america we understand that a 3872 02:27:59,910 --> 02:27:56,800 nation is only living as long as it is 3873 02:28:01,510 --> 02:27:59,920 striving uh and uh with the president's 3874 02:28:03,510 --> 02:28:01,520 strong leadership with the participation 3875 02:28:05,830 --> 02:28:03,520 of this council with the support of many 3876 02:28:08,950 --> 02:28:05,840 distinguished americans i'm confident 3877 02:28:20,350 --> 02:28:08,960 america will lead in space again 3878 02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:30,070 [Music] 3879 02:28:30,080 --> 02:28:33,630 so